An unflinching examination of white supremacy in America

David Mura unmasks how white stories about race attempt to erase the brutality of the past and underpin systemic racism in the present

Minneapolis, MN – David Mura grounds his work in historical and fictional narratives that whiteness tells society in order to uphold systems of oppression in The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself (Jan. 31 2023, University of Minnesota Press).

Intertwining history, literature, ethics, and the deeply personal, Mura looks back to foundational narratives of white supremacy (Jefferson’s defense of slavery, Lincoln’s frequently minimized racism, and the establishment of Jim Crow) to show how white identity is based on shared belief in the pernicious myths, false histories, and racially segregated fictions that allow whites to deny their culpability in past atrocities and current inequities. White supremacy always insists white knowledge is superior to Black knowledge, Mura argues, and this belief dismisses the truths embodied in Black narratives.

In his cogent analysis of white historical, fictional (Faulkner), cinematic (Spielberg) and journalistic narratives, Mura points to the persistent trauma racism has exacted; he lays bare how deeply we need to change our racial narratives—what white people must do—to dissolve the myth of Whiteness and fully acknowledge the stories and experiences of Black Americans.

The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself: Racial Myths and Our American Narratives
David Mura | Jan. 31, 2023 | University of Minnesota Press | Nonfiction
Paperback | ISBN: 9781517914547 | $24.95
Ebook | $24.95


About the Author

David Mura is an essayist, memoirist, poet and fiction writer who brings a unique perspective to our multi-racial and multi-cultural society. A third-generation Japanese-American, he has written intimately about his life as a man of color and the connections between race, culture and history. In public appearances interweaving poetry, performance and personal testament, he provides powerful insights into the racial issues facing America today.

Mura’s memoirs, poems, essays, plays and performances have won wide critical praise and numerous awards. Their topics range from contemporary Japan to the legacy of the internment camps and the history of Japanese Americans to critical explorations of an increasingly diverse America. He gives presentations at educational institutions, businesses and other organizations throughout the country. You can find him at his website: http://www.davidmura.com/

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In an interview, David Mura can discuss:

  • How white-dominated narratives of America’s past and present are deeply intertwined with our racist history – This can be seen in not only our historical texts and myths, but also in fiction, film or everyday racial incidents like the killings of Philando Castile and George Floyd by police, both of which happened just a few miles from David’s home in Minneapolis.
  • How America began with two goals – one was equality, freedom and democracy; the other was the establishment and maintenance of white supremacy. White America is fine with telling the story of America through the lens of the first goal, but not through the second.
  • His identity as a third generation Japanese American and how that identity informed his writing.
  • How readers can overcome psychological denial and engage more deeply with the struggle for racial equality.
  • The overly simplistic and superficial view of white supremacy and the legacy of slavery in the U.S., plus the lasting effects of the Reconstruction Era.
  • What we can learn from activist and writer James Baldwin about racism in America
  • How America would be different if schools put greater emphasis on the stories and experiences of all Americans, rather than just white-dominated narratives.
  • His friendship with novelist Alexs Pate and his involvement with The Innocent Classroom program that trains K-12 educators to improve their relationships with students of color.

Praise for The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself

The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself is the book I wish I could have been handing out during the height of the Black Lives Matters protests. There are many works written about the overarching effects of White Supremacy in America, but what’s essential about this book is the clarity provided by the wisdom and holistic vision of David Mura. The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself is the rare book that pulls off the magic trick of taking an incredibly explosive issue and disarming it with such grace as to make elusive truths feel suddenly accessible.” — Mat Johnson, author of Pym, Loving Day, and Invisible Things

“A powerful meditation on the conscious and unconscious effects of racist narratives. Anyone who’s lived through the last three years of racial reckoning and is wondering how we got here and where we go next will find this book useful.” — Shannon Gibney (waiting for attribution preference) Dream Country

“With this collection of taut essays, David Mura holds searing light on the epistemology of Whiteness, interrogating the brutal creation and lethal maintenance of this alibi rigged to serve as an identity. Mura, with painstaking patience half-masking anger and grief, offers what so many white Americans claim they want; what so many of the rest of us tire of providing: a rigorous education in perceiving themselves stripped of their dearest myths. I push back on the author’s use of “blindness” as metaphor over the book’s arc, a way the sighted shorthand an inability to perceive. No. For what Mura argues with compelling intelligence is that most white people willfully ignore history and resent being reminded of their place within its present. I suspect some will, as always, manage to ignore this entry into a tradition that includes Baldwin, Morrison, Hartman, and Wilderson; but those who heed it will find themselves fortified for change.” — Douglas Kearney, National Book Awards Poetry finalist

“More than anything, David Mura reminds us that history is still just a story, and life and death lies in who gets to tell it and what’s been told. This is a re-examination of the American imagination itself and the myths we need to dismantle for a proper foundation to finally grow. It’s fearless, illuminating, and revolutionary” — Marlon James, winner of the 2015 Booker Prize

“The vitriolic discourse against educators and librarians displays the resurgence of overt hostility toward books, in particular stories coming out of marginalized communities. Books written by writers of color and writers writing about how race is experienced by people of color are accused of teaching people to hate America. Meanwhile, there is The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself. David Mura, a gifted Japanese American writer and storyteller is in conversation with gifted African American writers/prophets such as Baldwin, Morrison, Gates, Kendi, and his friend and contemporary Alex Pate, author of the novel Amistad. Together, Mura and the thinkers he’s enlisted serve to shore up the experiences of people of color against the gaslighting we face and provide Whiteness with an opportunity to engage with fuller stories that could bring it out of a ‘distorted reality’ where ‘the oppressor thus lies to himself both about himself and about those he oppresses.’” — Sherrie Fernandez-Williams, author of Soft: A Memoir


Additional Praise for David Mura

“Upon finishing this book, I think that we will no longer be strangers. We will no longer feel that we are on our journey alone. This book is the intersection where our paths meet, where we can forge bonds that transcend the racial divide. Maybe from here on out, we can accompany each other on our journeys as friends and fellow artists, but most importantly, as fellow humans.” — Reyna Grande, Author of The Distance Between Us

“A Stranger’s Journey is an essential work of literary criticism and memoir, challenging readers and writers alike to think about writing, race, and identity in new ways.” — Rebecca Hussey, Foreword Reviews

“There is brilliant writing in this book, observations of Japanese humanity and culture that are subtly different from and more penetrating than what we usually get from Westerners.” — The New Yorker

“This intimate memoir of a third-generation Japanese American’s foray into the land of his ancestors is more than a colorful travel journal. And it is more than the story of one man’s search for his cultural place in the world when for the first time he is surrounded by faces all looking like his…David Mura has made his first book something rarer—a brutally honest, beautifully written meditation on art, race, country, sexuality and marriage, and ultimately…the exploration of himself as a man…This book is the powerful record of all he saw and experienced [in Japan] written with a poet’s eye and a memory for what was never there.” — Joyce Howe, East Bay Express


An Interview with David Mura

Your hometown of Minneapolis became a focal point for the Black Lives Matter movement after the police killings of Philando Castile and George Floyd – how were you affected?

My book begins with an essay on the police murder of Philando Castile and ends with an essay on the police murder of George Floyd. Both these police killings took place a few miles from my home. My son works in a school less than a mile from Cup Foods and he knows Darnella Frazier, the brave 17-year-old who took the video of Floyd’s murder, and he went to school with the EMT who tried to intervene and save Floyd. My daughter, sons and I all participated in the demonstrations against the killing of Floyd in the neighborhood where my children grew up and went to school.

In 2021, with African American writer Carolyn Holbrook, I co-edited and introduced an anthology of MN BIPOC writers, We Are Meant to Rise: Voices for Justice from Minneapolis to the World, and many of the writers, including my daughter, wrote about Floyd’s murder and the subsequent protests. The anger, sadness, analysis, and diverse personal testimonies in that book reflect the activist and artistic community here that I’m proud to be a part of, and the reverberations from these murders and demonstrations have had national and international consequences.

Why and how did you come to write this book about the dialogue and struggle between white and Black Americans, given that you yourself are a Japanese American?

Both my parents, at ages 11 and 15, were imprisoned by the United States government during World War II because of racist suspicions against their community. As a result, my parents, both consciously and unconsciously, raised me to assimilate into a white middle class identity. Growing up in a white suburb of Chicago, when someone said, “I think of you, David, just like a white person,” that was what I wanted to be. So I grew up studying and emulating white culture, white identity and white people. I know how white people think and view themselves because that is what I wanted to be — a white person.

Only in my late 20s, after reading African American authors, did I finally admit to myself I was never going to be white; moreover, these Black authors provided a language and a set of concepts that served as tools to investigate my Japanese American identity. I began to develop friendships with other people of color, particularly writers and artists, and I began teaching at organizations with students of color. So in many ways, in the second half of my life, I’ve been studying and developing relationships with Black culture, Black history and the Black community in a very conscious way, and I’ve been aided in that by key friendships with Black writers, artists, and theorists like the novelist Alexs Pate and a key proponent of the school of Afropessimism, Frank Wilderson.

You discuss fictional and historical examples of white supremacy in your book. Can you expand on how specifically fictional examples of racism fuel and protect the ideals that support white supremacy? How are these racial narratives different when presented by Black fiction writers and filmmakers?

Steven Spielberg and two white screenwriters created the film Amistad. In the initial scene, the Africans speak without subtitles — thus, unintelligible to American audiences — and after breaking their chains in the hold of a ship, they proceed to kill the white Spanish sailors. So the audience cannot understand them, does not know why they are in chains (they could be prisoners), and their first act is violence against white men. As the film progresses, it focuses on the quest of the young white lawyer, Roger Baldwin, to enlist John Quincy Adams to help in the trial which will determine whether the Africans are slaves or free men.

My friend, the African American novelist Alexs Pate, was hired to write the novelization of the film script, and intuitively he did not want to start with this scene. And so, unlike the film script, whose main viewpoint is that of Roger Baldwin and John Quincy Adams, Pate starts the novel within Cinque’s consciousness. Cinque is sleeping in his village next to his wife and child; he is restless and goes out and ends up killing a lion which is attacking his village. He is not unintelligible; he is a man with a family, a people, a culture; his consciousness is available to the reader; and finally his violence is clearly and unambiguously heroic. Just as importantly, his Blackness is not even a concept or, to use Dubois’ famous question, a problem. There is no Whiteness, and his status as a free man is not dependent upon the judgment and rule of white people.

Thus, the novelization written by an African American novelist differs markedly from the film, both in its ontology (categories of race) and its epistemology (whose knowledge and viewpoint centers the narrative). Pate uses all the lines from the script — that was his charge — but instead of a film about white saviors, he creates an African American film with an African hero whose goal is to return home to his wife and family.

You point out that white authors do not generally identify the race of their white characters and BIPOC writers do. What is the significance of this?

In general BIPOC writers understand that they must somehow indicate the ethnic and racial identity of their characters and in order to properly contextualize and understand their characters, they must be able to read those characters racially. In contrast, if a white author introduces the couple David and Susan, absent any racial marker, those characters are presumed to be white.

Thus, white identity becomes the universal default; all characters of color are exceptions to the norm. Moreover, whiteness need not be identified, and the implied assumption is that a white character being white has nothing to do with their identity, the way they look at themselves or their life experience — which, frankly, is nonsense. Thus, the absence of any racial marker for white characters becomes a mainly unconscious denial of race in America; it also implicitly assumes that the reader of the text is white and will not think consciously about the racial identity of the white characters or the author. This is not an assumption either most writers or readers of color make when creating or interpreting a text, even a text by a white author about white characters.

Writers and readers of color, a la DuBois’s double consciousness, know they must think about how white people think and how people of color think, whereas white consciousness can ignore the judgment and thinking of people of color or our ability to interpret and judge a text.

What does James Baldwin teach BIPOC about how to deal with America’s racism?

When Baldwin was in his teens and first ventured out of the all-Black community of Harlem, he was taken aback by the racism he experienced. After being refused service in a white New Jersey restaurant, he created a scene which ended with him being pursued by whites out of the restaurant. In his famous essay, Notes of a Native Son, he realizes that his father’s bitterness and rage concerning race also resides in his own psyche, and that if he doesn’t deal with that, he could end up killing someone or getting himself killed or killing himself.

Later, through his work as a journalist in the South during the Civil Rights era, he comes to realize the fortitude, resilience and spiritual strength of Southern Blacks in the face of the monstrous racism there, and how this strength resides not only in those activists, but in ordinary Black people who have continued to survive and build their own culture and institutions despite centuries of racism. At the same time, as Baldwin the writer and gay man encounters more of the white world, he realizes how deluded white people are not just about their racism but the false myths and stories through which white identity is created and maintained. He sees that white people are weaker and more morally bankrupt than they themselves can admit. As he says in that famous remark, he cannot be hurt by the N-word because the N-word says nothing about him or Black people but it says a lot about the people who created that word and use it to formulate their own sense of themselves and identity. In other words, he gives less and less room in his psyche to the ways white people see him; he makes Whiteness smaller in his own mind.

Tell us about Alexs Pate’s The Innocent Classroom and your involvement with the program.

I’ve been friends with the African American novelist Alexs Pate for 30 years. Back in the 1990’s we co-created a performance piece based on the events surrounding the video of the Rodney King beating by LA police. Partly inspired by pieces he wrote for that script, Pate eventually created a program to train K-12 teachers to improve their relationship with students of color.

In the program we asked educators to list the words American society uses to describe children of color and the list that results is an appalling array of negative stereotypes. The program understands that many BIPOC students feel branded and trapped by these negative racial stereotypes and never or rarely experience environments where their innocence — rather than their guilt — is assumed. And yet these are children; they should be regarded as innocent.

I served as Director of Training for the program and was the first trainer other than Pate to present the program to educators. Today, implemented in classrooms across the country, the Innocent Classroom has been shown to significantly improve both student behavior and academic achievement as well as teachers’ belief in, and relationship with, their students.

Why is the general view of white supremacy and the legacy of slavery overly simplistic and superficial? How, for instance, did the establishment, practice and justification of slavery structure white identity, as opposed to Black identity?

Racial disparities continue to exist in economics and employment, in the educational, justice and political system, in medicine and other fields, and as Baldwin has observed, these disparities are not an accident or a result of a few bad apples. They exist because white people have wanted them to exist and have structured power in this society so that these disparities can be maintained.

Such disparities exist because American society is still structured by the ways white people define Whiteness and Blackness, and the roots of that definition and grouping go back to slavery. From 1619 on, white identity was always formulated and viewed in contrast to Black identity. Historian David Eltis argues that it would have been more economically feasible to enslave whites from European poor houses and prisons, but Afropessmist Frank Wilderson points out that this would have broken up Whiteness as a group identity and as a tool to oppress racial others. Whiteness became the definition of what it means to be a citizen, to have the rights of citizenship, to have the rights to own property and later to participate in our democracy. Blackness became the definition of what it means not to be a citizen, to lack those rights, which meant that violence could be done to the Black body without need of legal justification — a phenomena we still see in contemporary encounters between Black people and police.

Of course Black people had a very different definition of what it means to be white and what it means to be Black and they resisted the categorization of themselves inflicted upon them, and this resistance continues into the present.

What does your book say about the racial thinking and psychology of Thomas Jefferson?

Let’s say I’m introducing you to a man who is a brilliant writer and thinker, an inventor and a scientist, a creator and purveyor of the principles of equality, freedom and democracy, a man who helped found a democratic nation. You would think: This is a man to admire.

But what if I told you this man enslaved over 500 human beings? What if I told you this man was his era’s leading ideologist in support of chattel slavery, that he argued vehemently for the inferiority of the Black race? What if I told you this man begat children in an adulterous affair with one of his slaves, who had no right or ability to reject his advances? What if I told you that this mistress was one fourth Black and his children one eighth Black, so that his children by this mistress/sexual victim looked white and people remarked on their resemblance to his father? But this man kept his own children and his grandchildren enslaved because their mother was Black. You would have a totally different opinion of this man. You would think him evil, psychologically depraved, morally bankrupt. The least you would say is that this man is a racist.

White America is fine with the presentation of Jefferson in my first paragraph here. White America is not fine with Jefferson the slaveholder and ideologist for slavery. And yet we are talking about the same man. You cannot understand how the United States was created, nor what it has been and is now, without acknowledging and understanding the moral, psychological and political contradictions Jefferson embodied. White America does not want to remember Jefferson the slave holder and it is this repressed truth which still shapes not only our thinking about the past and the present (for it is the present which clings to this historical amnesia).

Many have argued that we should view Lincoln’s racism as a product of its times and should be viewed in the context of its times. What is wrong with that view?

Certainly we should view Lincoln’s racism in the context of his time. He was a great president, a great man, and in so many ways a moral leader of his time.

And yet, he was also a racist, and there are any number of his remarks we would today recognize as racist, including his telling the Black ministers who came to the White House that they would never be part of America and that there was no Black person equal to a white person. We need to acknowledge this truth, because his racism is a fact about the man and his time.

We should be able to hold two views of Lincoln at the same time. Because if you eliminate the judgment of Lincoln as a racist, you distort and deny the past; moreover, if you lower the moral bar in judging the past it becomes way easier to lower the moral bar in judging the racism of the present.

Just as importantly, when we talk about the moral climate of Lincoln’s time, whose morality are we referring to? It is clearly just the morality of the white people of his time – because those Black ministers were also part of Lincoln’s time, and they believed in their equality and right to be part of America. So in calling for a white historical relativism, the present white view of Lincoln’s time eliminates the judgements and consciousness of the Black people of his time; it says those Black people were not part of America — which again is a racist view which characterizes our present as much as it characterizes Lincoln’s time.

How have we underestimated the lasting effects and complexity of the Reconstruction period?

After the Civil War, after any seeming legal racial progress towards equality, the regressive white population began work to re-establish the racial norms of the previous era — only without using the vocabulary of the previous era. Yes, the Emancipation Proclamation or the 13th and 14th Amendments supposedly became the law of the land, but these laws did not change the hearts and minds of white Southerners, particularly former slaveowners. So their question was: How can we reconstitute the power and trappings of slavery without saying that’s what we’re doing?

The Reconstruction period remains particularly obscured in our telling of American history. If anything is told, such accounts tend to involve stories of white vigilante violence, of the KKK and white terror, which were certainly part of this era. But the era also involved complex legal, philosophical, cultural and historical work, from the laws of the Black Codes, which essentially allowed any white person to arrest a Black person who was not working which then led to hundreds of thousands of Blacks trapped in the slave labor of the prison system; similarly apprenticeships and forms of indentured servitude kept Black workers constantly in debt to the white landowners and thus stripped of their rights. Then there were all the efforts to prevent Blacks from voting, from outright terror to poll taxes and written tests and other forms of voter discrimination.

And all this was supported by legal efforts to decrease the public sphere where laws of equality could be enforced and increase the private sphere where they could not — including designating racial hatred and discrimination as not being an essential part of slavery and thus, still perfectly legal; other legal work involved pushing state’s rights over federal rights and other measures out of a political philosophy which sounds today much like that of the Republican party. Finally, there was the production of the narrative of the Lost Cause, which depicted slavery as a relatively harmless necessity and certainly denied it as a cause for the Civil War; instead the Lost Cause myth pictured state’s rights and Northern aggression as the real reasons for the war, and it portrayed Southerners as noble, valiant, brave, and heroic freedom fighters in a lost cause. By the time of say Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, this blatantly false narrative of the Lost Cause had even infected the northern view of the Civil War and the South. Indeed, adopting this narrative became part of how the North eventually chose unity with fellow Southern whites over any real work towards Black racial equality.

When white South Africans wanted to institute racial segregation and white supremacy in a formalized way, they realized the white American South had already created such a system and had done their work for them. Reconstruction created the Jim Crow South and kept and still keeps Southern Blacks from having equal rights there. The crisis of the Jackson, Mississippi water system reflects the fact that most whites moved out of Jackson to avoid school integration, and thus, what happened with the water system there is simply the colored water fountain, 2.0.

What is white epistemology and Black epistemology? How do these complex terms relate to the present day race relations?

Feminists have argued that gender shapes and influences our conceptions of knowledge and the practices through which we attribute, acquire and justify what is proper knowledge. Similarly, race shapes what we regard as valid and invalid knowledge; it shapes how we come to know and think about the world; it shapes how and whom we designate as possessing the truth of the world, both of the past and the present. Or as Robin DiAngelo, author of White Fragility, puts it, “From whose subjectivity does the ideal of objectivity come?”

People of color understand that a basis of white identity is always this: Nothing people of
color say about whites or Whiteness can be the truth — valid knowledge — unless whites and Whiteness decree it. Ultimately, whites believe it is their right to decide not just the nature of their reality, but that of blacks and other people of color too. It is their white epistemology, their way of knowing the world, which must remain supreme. For it is a fundamental rule of white epistemology that the knowledge and stories of white America can never be legitimately challenged by Americans who are not white. You see this white epistemology at work everywhere — in our political and legal system, in culture, in the ways we tell our history.

Throughout our history, but certainly within slavery, the white Master believed he is the master and the Black Slave the inferior who must do what the Master says — on pain of death. Implicitly, in the white Master’s epistemology, Black knowledge hardly existed and was certainly inferior and subject to the Master’s judgment. Blacks understood the white Master viewed them like this, but they also understood they needed to hide their consciousness, their rebellious thoughts and actions, from the White Master. The Black Slave knew a truth the White Master could not admit — the Black Slave was a fully human as the Master. So the Black Slave, as DuBois implied, had a double-consciousness and had to understand how the White Master thinks of himself and the Black Slave and how the Black slave thinks about themselves and the White Master.

How would our country be different if we had a new national narrative that includes the stories and experiences and voices of all Americans, not just the white-dominated narratives we are taught in school or, up until very recently, in popular culture?

As the historian David Blight has observed, “Hypocrisy is a tool of racism.” If the ways we narrate and tell our racial history is distorted and actively omits or obscures certain truths, we cannot understand either the past or the present which emerged out of that past. Moreover the distorted and censored way we tell our history continues, and this then distorts the way we tell our narratives about the present. It’s easier to lie about the present if you lie about the past; it’s easier to lower the moral bar in the present if you lower it in the past.

Beyond this the truths embodied in the narratives and perspective of African Americans are part of our entire nation’s history. Our national history does not make sense without their story and perspective. Moreover, within the struggle for civil rights, Black America has always been on the right side of history, has always seen our racial mistakes and problems more clearly than white people. And yet, curiously and tellingly, there can be no contemporary Harriet Tubman or Sojourner Truth or Martin Luther King, Jr. But if white America actually understood the full complexity and truths of our history, it might be more able to say, “Hey, we got the race question wrong every time in our history and you Blacks were on the right side of history. So now we’re going to listen to you, we’re going to take your lead.”

Part of this would involve white Americans understanding that they are inheritors, as we all our, of the white slaveowners and the Black slaves; George Wallace and Martin Luther King, Jr. are both part of our legacy. While some declaim the diminishment of white unblemished heroes like Jefferson who owned slaves and Lincoln who was a racist, we should be able to see the truly heroic in the struggles of African Americans and other BIPOC Americans and make their contributions essential to the American story, which they are.

One more point: Conservative whites are now proclaiming that the teaching about race in our classrooms is harming white children, and we should ban even a book like the story of Ruby Bridges, the brave 8-year-old who desegregated a school in face of hostile white crowds insulting and spitting at her. Why couldn’t white children be inspired by this story? Moreover if African American children can hear about the history of race in America, why can’t white children? Are white children so much more fragile? Finally, these white conservatives are clearly not concerned that almost every Black parent in America must tell even their grade school children what might happen to them if they encounter the police and how to avoid that. Where’s the concern for the real harm actual stories of the justice system are doing to Black children?

Where do we go from here? How can readers take what they have learned through your work and put that to action on an individual level to confront our country’s racial problems?

Near the end of the book, I go over some changes white people need to make in their lives, from knowing more about the issues of race to changing and making more diverse their social life to entering activism. But these fairly concrete steps must be taken in concert with an internal journey.

I point out how white reactions to racism often follow the five steps in Helen Kubler-Ross’s five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, grief, acceptance. From denial: “Racism is mostly a thing of a past…” or “…there’s no such thing as systemic racism….” or “whites are more discriminated against than minorities…” to anger: “Why are you being so difficult, why are you created problems when there aren’t any, the problem is your anger, why do you keep bringing this up” to bargaining: “well, it can’t be all that bad….it’s only a few bad apples….we just need to make a few reforms to policing” to grief: “I can’t believe it’s so bad, how do you BIPOC people take it, I feel so ashamed” and white tears to finally acceptance of the fact of racism in American life and society. This is a spiritual and psychological journey, not just a political one.

For BIPOC people, we must reject how whites define racism — focusing mainly on conscious and visible individual acts of racism and discrimination — and instead understand the systemic workings of racism, how acts of racist acts in our justice system or politics often disguise their true intent, how racial disparities are created by structural components such as legal protections for egregious police officers or the systemic pervasiveness of unconscious or implicit racial bias in a huge proportions of America.

For BIPOC people, there’s also the task of making Whiteness — that is white judgements, insults, discrimination — smaller, with far less room in our heads. Yes, we have to battle the systemic racism in our society, but we must work on not internalizing that racism and letting it judge ourselves. As I often say to you BIPOC, “Don’t give power to people who cannot see you.”

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An interview with Giselle Durand of The Book Cellar

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

I love the cozy corner by the front windows. We have these really comfy chairs there and the sunlight streams in in the afternoon, so it’s a little book heaven. I also appreciate whatever weird corner our life-size John Green cutout is in. I like to move him around.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I love having Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown facing out. The cover is just gorgeous, and the dust cover is actually textured and raised which adds wonderful dimension. Other honorable mentions include The Atlas Six by Olivie Blake, Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao, and Crying in H Mart by Michelle Zauner. I guess I really like red covers?

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

I can’t decide between Honey and Spice by Bolu Babalola and Dead End Memories by Banana Yoshimoto. Honey and Spice defines the genre of romantic comedy- Babalola is a self-proclaimed rom-connaisseur and I wholeheartedly agree- the book breathes so well. The chemistry between the characters is electric and I was thoroughly engrossed in her writing. I can’t recommend it enough! Dead End Memories is a short story collection translated from the original Japanese by Asa Yoneda. I’m not normally a short-story person, but the writing style captivated me and it was so light and easy to read. At the same time, I felt heartbroken after every story. Yoshimoto is really good at creating really specific atmospheres, and the short stories centering on missed connections and finding our way back to people, or not, are beautifully reflective of the nature of relationships.

Do you have a strange customer story?

Too many to count! I actually keep a note on my phone called “People of the Bookstore” for customer stories, so I immediately opened that up when I read this question. This story isn’t so strange, but it’s one of my favorite interactions I’ve had. A woman came in looking for books for her four granddaughters. She said something along the lines of “They live in a very conservative town, so we like to give them things to stretch their minds.” Once we settled on One Last Stop for the 22-year-old, Red, White, and Royal Blue for the 19-year-old, The Song of Achilles for the 15-year-old, and The Mysterious Benedict Society for the 11-year-old, she was visibly gleeful. “I hope their mother throws a fit,” She told me while checking out.

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

We did a partnership with the Chicago Public Libraries for Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s children’s book, JUST HELP! and Spanish counterpart SOLO AYUDA!, and it was really cool working on a project with a Supreme Court Justice. I didn’t work the actual event, so I didn’t technically meet her, but I got a bit starstruck when we received bookplates with her signature. Melissa Albert is one of the nicest authors I’ve ever met. She wrote the Hazelwood series and launched her newest book, Our Crooked Hearts, with us in store. She is so talented and sweet!

Also, I loved the Divergent books when I was younger, and when I started working at the Book Cellar and found out Veronica Roth was a Chicago native and frequenter of our store, I freaked out! I got to meet her a few months ago when she came in to do some shopping, and she signed my advanced reader copy of her book Poster Girl that’s coming out in October. She is so nice and has fabulous taste in books- it’s always fun to see what she orders.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

“Is it nice to sit around and read all day?” I wish I had time for that! Between assisting customers in-store, processing online orders, receiving shipments of books, manning the cafe, and making sure the store looks nice, it’s a busy job. It’s not nearly as lax and romantic as people make it out to be!

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

My least favorite task is shelving books when the shelves are chock-full. It’s hard deciding what should be moved around or off the shelves to make room for things, while still making sure the displays look nice and some books are facing out! My favorite task is giving recommendations, oral or written. When someone comes in and the word “recommendation” leaves their mouth, I can feel myself activate. I love the challenge and excitement of finding them the perfect book. Especially if they come back at some point and are clawing for the sequel, raving about the book and asking for something similar, or gushing over how the person they gave it to loved it. It’s so rewarding. We also have “Rec cards” where staff members can write recommendations to accompany books on the shelves, which is a great way to highlight books that might be passed over if someone were just scanning the spines.

Can you recommend an underrated readalike book for one of the store’s top titles?

I love this question. We sell a lot of Gideon the Ninth (and sequels) by Tamsyn Muir, which is a dark sci-fi fantasy with necromancers, queerness, love interests who hate each other, and a compelling mystery. One of my favorite books is Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas, which also includes queerness, love interests who hate each other, a compelling mystery, and shepherding souls to the land of the dead. It’s a gorgeously written book about a young trans man trying to prove himself to his family by summoning a super annoying (and much to his chagrin, hot) ghost. It’s a ghost story and a love story and has a similar atmosphere to Gideon!

What’s the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

“Look, I didn’t want to be a half-blood,” will always be one of my favorite first lines in a book. It’s from the very first Percy Jackson book, The Lightning Thief, by Rick Riordan, and it sets the tone for the entire series so well. Another good first line that I love is from Circe by Madeline Miller; “When I was born, the name for what I was did not exist.” It’s so intriguing and makes you want to keep reading! I’m kicking myself for not remembering what book it is, but there’s a dedication out there that’s along the lines of “For you, bitch” that I just think is so funny.

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited, besides your own!

Wild Rumpus in Minneapolis is one of the coolest bookstores ever! They have chickens and cats that roam around the store and you can pet them and play with them as you look for books. It’s more geared towards kids, but there’s something for everyone.

Giselle Durand is a bookseller at The Book Cellar in Chicago.

An interview with Natalie Freeman of Skylight Books

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

At Skylight we technically have *two* stores. We have our main store which is home to all of our fiction, genre books, and most of our nonfiction books. Then two doors down we have our Arts Annex with all of our graphic novels, design, music, film and other art books. The Annex is also home to our super rad zine collection, mostly curated by my colleague Alex. My favorite thing to do when I see Alex receiving and restocking in the Annex is to just ask him what’s new and what’s cool. We have zines by local authors/illustrators/artists and a lot of imported collections from around the world. I get lost in the zines everytime I walk back to my office and I’ve discovered so many cool things on those displays.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I know we’re not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but judgment doesn’t always have to be bad! When I saw the cover art for the new editions of Juneau Black’s SHADY HOLLOW mystery series, I thought “Okay this book is going to be a good time!” And I wasn’t wrong! I always face these out in our mystery section and recommend them to anyone who’s looking for a fun read that feels like a cozy afternoon on the couch with a *perfect drinking temperature* cup of tea.

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

We do staff picks every month at Skylight, and this year I decided to feature kids, middle reader, and YA books for all of those (you can find all of our staff picks on our website!) But I’ve still been reading big kid books too! If I had to pick a recent new release, I’d recommend Jennette McCurdy’s memoir I’M GLAD MY MOM DIED. I read an early copy and finished it in like two days. My favorite memoirs are the ones where the author is so self-aware that you can feel it dripping off the page. Having been through lots of therapy and constantly working on discovering new things about myself, this book really blew me away. A blacklist pick would probably be A PSALM FOR THE WILD-BUILT, the first book in Becky Chambers’ Monk and Robot series. I read this and the latest installment A PRAYER FOR THE CROWN-SHY while I was camping this summer and I couldn’t imagine a better place to read these beautiful little books about a traveling tea monk and their robot companion.

Do you have a strange customer story?

So much can happen in a day of consistently interacting with customers. One of my favorite interactions was when a customer came in looking for the new Melissa Febos book BODY WORK, but it was the day before it went on sale. The customer had just been in a class where Melissa was a guest speaker and she mentioned the book, so she had come to the store the next day to get it. I happened to have an advanced copy at my desk because I had been reading it, so I told the customer to hang out for a second and I’d be right back. I brought her the galley and let her have it since I was almost done. She emailed me a few days later saying she had already finished it. Those kinds of interactions only happen when everyone is in the right place at the right time, and it’s always so fun when it all works out.

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

I’m the assistant events manager at Skylight so I’ve been fortunate enough to meet a lot of wonderful authors, and I also produce the Skylight Books Podcast so I’ve also gotten the opportunity to interview some of my personal favorite authors and illustrators. Earlier this year I interviewed Akwaeke Emezi about their YA novel BITTER, which was surreal and I still think about that conversation a lot.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

Something that always seems to surprise people about working in a bookstore, at least our bookstore, is that every piece of the business happens HERE. If you order a book on our website and it says that it’s in stock, someone who works at the store is going to pull it off the shelf to fulfill your order. We have a very small (but mighty!) team that works on orders and shipping, and your order is also packaged and shipped by someone working at the store. Then we walk all of those packages across the street to the post office. The bookstore you’re shopping in is the place where all the magic happens!

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

My least favorite bookstore task is probably alphabetizing haha. It’s one of the most foundational tasks of working at a bookstore – you need to alphabetize things as you shelve, restock and maintain sections. But after the hustle and bustle of a day helping customers or working on events, my brain always has trouble remembering the alphabet.

My favorite part of working in a bookstore is definitely handselling. When I started working on the events team, I stopped working on the sales floor and I didn’t realize how much I would miss it! Whenever I happen to be bopping around the store and someone stops me to ask for help, I feel like a kid in a candy store. I love helping people find their next great read, it fills me with so much joy. My colleagues will also call me at my desk to see if I have time to help someone find a kids book, and that’s when I drop everything and I show up next door before they’ve even had a chance to hang up the phone.

Can you recommend an underrated read-a-like book for one of the store’s top titles?

I think that 99% of customers who have come into our store recently have read at least one Ottessa Moshfegh book. Sometimes they’ve read a few of her books and want to read another, or they’ve read one and liked it, but want to read another author before diving into her backlist. For anyone that loved or was thinking about reading DEATH IN HER HANDS, I always recommend Olga Tokarczuk’s DRIVE YOUR PLOW OVER THE BONES OF THE DEAD. They both have a character that inserts themselves into a whodunnit, plus DRIVE YOUR PLOW OVER THE BONES OF THE DEAD gives you a chance to read around the world (translated from the Polish) and spend some time with a cranky old lady who lives in a snowy cabin and loves astrology.

What’s the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

This book has a dedication, a few intros and many beginnings. I’ve thought about Carmen Maria Machado’s memoir IN THE DREAM HOUSE pretty much every single day since I first read it.

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited, besides your own!

I grew up in Lakewood, CA and there was a used bookstore about 10 minutes away called Once Read Books. They’re located on a corner and whichever direction you approach from there are shelves and shelves of books outside the front doors. I spent countless hours sifting through their sections and always found piles of books to bring home. Now whenever I’m back in that area I always have to stop by. On my last trip I found an amazing book on Eliot Porter’s Appalachian wilderness photography and a handful of old regional cookbooks.

Natalie Freeman is the assistant events manager at Skylight Books in L.A.

Climate change, corporate greed and murder converge in futuristic D.C.-based mystery series’s stunning sequel

TORONTO – Political intrigue in Washington, D.C.? That’s nothing new. But that intrigue is anything but dull in the second book of Michael Kaufman’s genre-smashing Jen Lu series. A well-crafted, entertaining story told with humor, heart, guts and soul, “The Last Resort” (Jan. 10, 2023, Crooked Lane Books) is perfect for fans of political thrillers, speculative fiction, police procedurals, and feminist and anti-racist literature.

It’s March 2034, six months after D.C. police Detective Jen Lu and Chandler, her sentient bio-computer implanted in her brain, cracked the mystery of Eden. But the climate crisis is hitting harder than ever: A mega-hurricane has devastated the ecosystem, and waves of refugees are pouring into Washington, D.C. The rich live forever while the desperate scramble for the modified longevity treatment. Then, the death of lawyer and media darling Patty Garcia, who won a court case for massive climate change reparations to be paid out by oil, gas and coal companies, signals a glaring red flag to a wider conspiracy. Jen and Chandler are called in to crack the case. Signs point to Patty’s ex, James Culpepper, a former oil giant, but as the duo dig deeper, they turn up more suspects who might have an even greater motive for killing Patty.

Jen’s search puts her in the crosshairs of those who will ensure the truth never comes to light, no matter the cost. As she continues to delve deeper into the seedy underbelly of the city, she has to move quickly — before she becomes next on the killer’s list.

“The Last Resort”
Michael Kaufman | Jan. 10, 2023 | Crooked Lane Books
Mystery/Technothriller | Hardcover | 9781639102075 | $28.99


MICHAEL KAUFMAN has worked for decades engaging men to support women’s rights and positively transform the lives of men. He is the co-founder of the White Ribbon Campaign, the largest effort in the world of men working to end violence against women. He volunteers as a senior fellow at Promundo (Washington, D.C.) and has worked in 50 countries with the United Nations, governments, NGOs and educators. He advised the French government in 2019 as a member of its G7 Gender Equality Advisory Council.

He is the author of numerous nonfiction and fiction works, and was awarded the Canadian Jewish Book Award for Fiction. His most recent nonfiction book is “The Time Has Come.” He’s also written “Why Men Must Join the Gender Equality Revolution” (2019) and his first Jen Lu novel“The Last Exit.” His books and articles have been translated into 14 languages. Born in Cleveland, Ohio, having lived in Durham, North Carolina, and now living in Toronto, Canada, he is married and has a daughter and a son. For more information, please visit michaelkaufman.com.

Follow Michael Kaufman on social media:
Twitter: @KafumanWrites | LinkedIn: @MichaelKaufmanWrites

In an interview, Michael Kaufman can discuss:

  • His decadeslong career with the United Nations, governments, NGOs and businesses engaging men to support women’s rights and how that influenced his fiction writing
  • How the Jen Lu series blends elements of police procedurals and mystery genres with those of political thrillers, science-fiction, speculative fiction, and anti-racist and feminist works.
  • The challenge writing a page-turning story that weaves in themes of climate change, technology and violence against women
  • Why we still need good fiction at a time when we’re beset by so many serious problems across the world
  • Projects he’s working on and what’s next for Jen Lu

Also in the Jen Lu Mystery Series

Set in Washington, D.C. in 2033, climate change has hit hard: Fires are burning, unemployment is high and controversial longevity treatments are available only to the ultra-rich. Enter resourceful young police detective, Jen B. Lu, and her partner, Chandler, a synthetic computer implant in her brain acting as her link to police records and a constant voice inside her head. He’s a wannabe tough guy with a sense of humor and his own ideas about solving crimes.

As a detective in the Elder Abuse Unit, Jen is supposed to be investigating kids pushing their aging parents to “exit” so they are eligible to get the longevity drug. But what really has her attention are the persistent rumors about Eden, an illegal version of the longevity drug, and the bizarre outbreak of people aging almost overnight, then suddenly dying.

When Jen’s investigations of Eden take her too close to the truth, she is suspended, Chandler is deactivated, and her boyfriend is freaked out by “the thing inside her brain” — leaving Jen to pursue a very dangerous investigation all on her own.

“The Last Exit: A Jen Lu Mystery”
Michael Kaufman | Crooked Lane Books | Mystery | Hardcover | ISBN: 9781643855677 | Price: $27.99

Praise for “The Last Exit”

“[An] outstanding series launch…Exceptional worldbuilding is complemented by sympathetic characters and suspenseful plot twists. Kaufman is a writer to watch.” — Publishers Weekly, starred review

“Kaufman keeps the pot boiling … A strong, richly imagined brew.” — Kirkus Reviews

“An engrossing thriller set in a fascinatingly plausible near future, ‘The Last Exit’ centres on a human-AI partnership that’s as believable as it’s moving.” — Emma Donoghue, New York Times bestselling author of “Room”

“ ‘The Last Exit’ hits hard. Fast action — a melding of the mental and physical — keeps this smart futuristic thriller racing, and its contemporary implications keep the reader thinking.” —Thomas Perry, bestselling author of “A Small Town”

An interview with Michael Kaufman

This is the second book in your Jen Lu series. How soon after finishing the first book did you know you wanted to continue Jen’s story?

The minute I read the first reviews. I knew I’d taken a risk writing a mystery that bent genres and that delved into political themes, but only when I started hearing from readers did I realize how much my approach — page-turning, serious themes yet fun to read — was something I wanted to continue doing.

You have decades of experience working with the United Nations, NGOs and various government officials and educators. How have you used this expertise to write about some complex topics like climate change and the intricacies of the oil and gas industry?

I’ve worked directly with presidents and prime ministers. I could answer that this has given me insights into the workings of political power. But here’s my real answer: We all need stories. Not only to entertain but to make sense of our lives. Right now, there is no more important issue than the quickly emerging climate crisis and the utter culpability of the oil, gas and coal industries in destroying our future.

“The Last Resort” has a secondary theme of men’s violence against women. How does this fit into the story?

It’s a critical theme in itself. Across the country and around the world, there is a rash of violence against women: in our homes, at work, at places of learning and on the streets. Engaging men as allies with women to end this violence has been my life’s work.

There are a variety of politically charged themes throughout the book. What would you say to people who are looking for a fiction book that “isn’t political”?

First of all, “The Last Resort,” is entertainment. It’s fun; it’s exciting. My goal isn’t to educate — I leave that to my nonfiction books. At the same time, every moment of our lives is shaped by political realities, and that is nowhere more true than with the climate crisis. I believe that some of the most powerful stories ever written weave in the political and social realities of the day. Imagine if Tolstoy had left out the war part; his great novel would have read like a Netflix costume drama.

Speaking of politics, there are a lot of tough themes the book touches on, but the series’s tone overall is ultimately one of hope (surrounded with humor). Why did you choose to go this route?

The last thing readers need is another grim dystopia. I believe strongly in the human capacity to change, not simply at the individual level but our ability to imagine and then to create a better world. Faced with the existential realities of the climate crisis, we need that vision of hope and change more than ever. Shouldn’t fiction that digs into the tough issues we face today and in years ahead bring us up rather than bring us down?

What do you hope readers gain from the book?

Gain? I hope they gain some absolutely entertaining moments. I hope they can’t put it down. But I also hope it allows them to imagine a future that is certainly full of challenges but also possibilities for positive change.

Is there another Jen Lu book in the works? Are you working on any other projects?

Yes, there will be a sequel. I’m also at work on a traditional thriller as well as a literary novel and a screenplay. Plus, of course, I continue my advisory role with various U.N. agencies, governments, NGOs and companies. That said, I can’t wait to hang out again with Jen Lu and Chandler, her computer implant and wannabe tough guy.

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An interview with Emily Giglierano of Astoria Bookshop

What is your favorite area of your bookstore?

Our under-visited kids’ nonfiction section. It’s not ideally situated, tucked away near the office and the back door storage area, but the books are my favorites: these are the really cool picture-book biographies, the oversized atlases of wild animals and places all over the world, almanacs and science books, the “growing up” shelf that covers self-esteem, social justice, and sexuality for elementary through high-schoolers — in other words, all of the most interesting books that try to explain how the world works. I almost always learn something new when I’m shelving here, and it’s my favorite place to recommend gift books.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

The first one to spring to mind is Aimee Nezhukumathil’s WORLD OF WONDERS — something about the charming nature illustrations + the title + the foil on the author’s name, it just brings me joy and makes me want to stop and pick it up every time I see it. It’s small but has a big impact.

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

Cat Sebastian’s THE PERFECT CRIMES OF MARIAN HAYES, a historical romance + crime novel in which our two bisexual lead characters fall in love while exchanging blackmail letters. I’ve read it twice this year, once as soon as the galley was posted and again for a mini-romance book club.

My go-to backlist pick is THE CUTTING SEASON by Attica Locke: The caretaker at a plantation-house museum – a museum still owned by the family that ran the plantation where her ancestors were enslaved – uncovers historical secrets. An emotionally complex mystery novel with great atmosphere and a relatable single-mother protagonist.

Do you have a strange customer story?

One of our regulars speaks with a flat, demanding tone of voice that can sound aggressive, especially when she’s asking questions. Once, after several typical questions – “Miss, how much this book cost? Miss, why you not have [this other book]?” she asked one more: “Miss, do you like cheese?”

I had to say yes. Next thing I know, she reaches into her pocket and hands me a wedge of cheddar cheese! (Packaged in plastic.) She’d given us tokens of appreciation before, like a pen from the bank and cookies from a holiday gift basket, but this was the first perishable food item….

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

Since I started working at the bookshop right before the pandemic kicked into gear, I haven’t gotten to spend much time with authors here. But I was working at Penguin Random House when Knopf published Judy Blume’s grown-up novel, IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT, and hosted an in-office signing. I asked her to sign a copy of the book to my seventh-grade English teacher – and still got a little choked up 😊

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

I think people tend to forget that it’s a customer service job — it’s not just you and a stack of books, it’s also about being able to talk with folks who come in, asking the right questions to suss out what they want to take home (especially when they’re buying for someone else!), and making small talk.

Least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part?

Least favorite: As a small store, we’re constantly trying to fit more stock on our shelves than we actually have room for, so this is a job that’s never done! Favorite part: Alphabetizing is extremely satisfying.

Readalike for a popular book?

One of our biggest sellers this past year has been Michelle Zauner’s CRYING IN H MART. The memoir that I try to give everyone alongside it is SEEING GHOSTS by Kat Chow (Grand Central, 2021). Like H Mart, Seeing Ghosts is about losing your mother to cancer and negotiating your complicated relationship to her culture — but Kat tells her story in a fragmented, snapshot-like style, revisiting certain scenes and moments from her childhood and her parents’ lives so that I felt like I was remembering alongside her as I read. The way she reexamines her relationships with her parents as she grows into adulthood offered me new perspectives on my own parental relationships, and changed the way I think about my grandparents’ stories of growing up as first-generation Americans, and how that influenced my parents in turn.

Emily Giglierano is a bookseller at Astoria Bookshop in Queens, NY.

“Addictive” WWII series continues with detective investigating art heist and multiple London murders

‘This is to my shame the first Mark Ellis book I’ve read. If the others evoke a vanished London so impressively, are graced with such complex plots and deep characterisation, and, above all, are written so well I shall have to read them all.‘ –THE LONDON TIMES

LONDON, England – In “Dead in the Water” (Jan. 17, 2023, Hachette) Detective Chief Inspector Frank Merlin is back in Mark Ellis’ vividly atmospheric WWII crime series. The newest addition to the series that NYT-bestselling author Andrew Roberts calls “masterly and compelling” does not disappoint as readers dive into DCI Frank Merlin’s next case.

In the summer of 1942, the Second World War rages on but Britain now faces the Nazi threat with America at its side. In a bombed-out London swarming with gangsters and spies, DCI Frank Merlin continues his battle against rampant wartime crime. A mangled body is found in the Thames just as some items of priceless art go mysteriously missing. What sinister connection links the two?

Merlin and his team follow a twisting trail of secrets as they investigate a baffling and deadly puzzle–and lovers of mystery, espionage and historical crime fiction will eagerly consume every new clue until the novel’s thrilling end.

“Dead in the Water”
Mark Ellis | January 17, 2023 | Hachette | Historical Crime Fiction
Paperback | 978-1786159885 | $17.99
Ebook | B09NVP3PCF | $4.99

More about MARK ELLIS

Mark Ellis is a thriller writer from Swansea and a former barrister and entrepreneur. His books treat the reader to a vivid portrait of London during the war skilfully blended with gripping plots, political intrigue and a charismatic protagonist.

Mark grew up under the shadow of his parents’ experience of the Second World War. His father served in the wartime navy and died a young man. His mother told him stories of watching the heavy bombardment of Swansea from the safe vantage point of a hill in Llanelli, and of attending tea dances in wartime London under the bombs and doodlebugs. In consequence Mark has always been fascinated by WW2 and in particular the Home Front and the fact that while the nation was engaged in a heroic endeavor, crime flourished. Murder, robbery, theft and rape were rife and the Blitz provided scope for widespread looting.
This was an intriguing, harsh and cruel world. This is the world of DCI Frank Merlin. Learn more at https://markellisauthor.com/.

Follow Mark on social media
Facebook: Mark Ellis- Author Page | Twitter: @MarkEllis15 | Instagram: @markell1


In an interview, Mark Ellis can discuss:

  • What inspired DCI Frank Merlin and his detective thriller series
  • His interest in wartime crime and espionage stories, and the continued popularity of wartime stories
  • His research process and his desire to make his series historically accurate
  • How his family’s background inspired his writing
  • How his time in America versus his time in England has shaped his stories

Praise for “Dead in the Water”

“This is to my shame the first Mark Ellis book I’ve read. If the others evoke a vanished London so impressively, are graced with such complex plots and deep characterisation, and, above all are written so well I shall have to read them all.” The London Times

“Extraordinarily atmospheric and compelling, Dead in the Water is a wonderfully intelligent and complex story.” Chris Lloyd, winner of The Historical Writers Association Gold Crown 2021

“A very satisfying puzzle, expertly crafted.” Historical Novel Society

“Mark Ellis has shown himself to be a historical crime writer of the first rank. This is a pacy, gripping, taut thriller that rampages across the bombed out landscape of wartime London. Loved it!” Alec Marsh, author of the acclaimed Drabble and Harris crime series

“A whirlwind of an international historical thriller…another incredible addition to a phenomenal series…I firmly believe that the Frank Merlin series is one of the best to be written over the past 10 years.” Dorset Book Detective

“A terrifically enjoyable historical thriller…characters drawn so brilliantly…keeps you guessing all the way to the end” The Last Word Book Review

“An exceptional story and a terrifically engaging and entertaining read.” AMW Books

“A fantastic novel of wartime Noir at its best, gritty, tense and intelligent.” Jude’s Bookworm Blog

“This thrilling mystery is a must-read on your summer reading list…will keep you reading late into the night.” Toronto Filming

“An illuminating and enjoyable read.” Aspects of History Magazine


Praise for the Frank Merlin Series

“A richly atmospheric, authentic, and suspenseful detective series set during World War II on the UK’s home front. Mark Ellis calls to mind Ken Follett, Alan Furst, and P.D. James.” Joseph Finder, New York Times bestselling thriller writer

“Masterly…compelling…one of the most attractive characters to emerge in recent detective thriller-fiction.” Andrew Roberts New York Times bestselling historian

“Historically realistic and dramatically enthralling.” Kirkus Reviews

“Compelling…perceptive…engaging.” Foreword Reviews

“A vivid and often surprising portrayal of wartime London.” The Western Mail


An Interview with Mark Ellis

DCI Frank Merlin is a unique and memorable character. What inspired his creation?

Originally my hero was going to be a more prosaic Cockney character but I then decided to make him a little more exotic. On holiday in Spain I thought why not make him half-Spanish? I happened to be in the countryside when the idea came to me and a herd of Merino sheep were nearby. I suddenly decided that Merino was a good name. Thus was born Francisco Merino, born in London to a Spanish sailor and his English wife. In due course, the father Javier decided to Anglicise his name and those of his children. Thus Francisco Merino became Frank Merlin.

How did time living in the U.S. influenced your writing?

In 1972, I went on a school exchange trip to America. The school I attended was Shady Side Academy in Pittsburgh and I was looked after by a wonderful family called the Denneys. When school was finished I bought a Greyhound monthly bus pass for $200 and then travelled right around the country. It was on this journey that I first read great classic American crime writers like Chandler, Hammett, James M Cain and Patricia Highsmith. This was when I first had the idea of one day becoming a crime writer myself. Later in the 80s and 90s I worked for a while in the US, specifically in New York and Los Angeles. My exploration of American crime writers continued. My business life also provided me with ideas and characters for my future fiction.

Who are some of your favorite authors and what inspiration have you drawn from them?

I love the writers mentioned above. Other favourites in crime fiction include Agatha Christie, Dorothy Sayers, Michael Connelly, Ruth Rendell, Robert Crais, Don Winslow, Henning Mankell, Jo Nesbo, PD James…I could go on! Other favourite general authors include Tolstoy, Dickens, Gore Vidal, Hilary Mantel.

Historical fiction often requires a lot of research. What is your process for making sure the books are as accurate as possible?

I am writing a series set in wartime London. The books progress in roughly 6-9 monthly intervals. I am just embarking on Book 6 of the series which will be set in the Spring of 1943. Before I start writing I immerse myself in the particular period and usually my research will yield ideas for the plot or plots of the new book. As I am well into the series, I have already built up a large library of war-related books. Online information has grown hugely since I started the series and I get much from that source. Biographies, collections of letters and fiction of the period are all excellent sources as well as more straightforward wartime histories.

Why do you think wartime stories continue to be so popular with readers?

As a period of history retreats further into the past, it inevitably becomes more strange and exotic. Also, interest in the war has been prompted by a number of major anniversaries in recent years. Overall the war is a fantastic story on a large level and a more intimate one. I focus mainly on the level of ordinary people, good or bad, trying to go about their lives against a tumultuous background. I find the details of their lives fascinating as do, apparently, the readers of my books.

What does Frank’s future look like?

I have always said that I intend to take Merlin all the way through the war. At the normal pacing of the books, that implies another 3 or 4. What his adventures will be I cannot say. I do not plan my books in advance. The plots come to me as I am writing them. All I can say is that every time I research a book I find something new and exciting to incorporate into it.

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Three women face life-altering events in haunting debut

Eerie stories perfect for fans of Haruki Murakami and Kate Atkinson

BATH, Ohio – Step into the shocking, strange, and unforgettable stories of three women entering adulthood through a series of grim events in this genre-bending debut by M. Laszlo. Using his own personal journals, M. Laszlo creates an illusion of happiness struck down by the realities of society during the height of WWI and post-WWI Europe. The Phantom Glare of Day (SparkPress, Nov 1, 2022) is a trio of novellas that will shock and surprise you as each woman faces a series of events more unforeseen than the next, in an enigmatic collection that is sure to become a cult classic.

Having spent years abroad writing on his experiences, M. Laszlo combines the journals from his youth with his uncanny imagination and vintage writing style into a novella collection about three women facing strange, dire circumstances.

“The Ghost of Sin” tells of Sophie, a young lady who has lived a sheltered life and consequently has no idea how cruel public school bullying can be. When she meets Jarvis, a young man obsessed with avenging all those students who delight in his daily debasement, she resolves to intervene before tragedy unfolds. “Mouvements Perpétuels” tells of Cäcilia, who feels unable to resist when her ice-skating instructor attempts to take advantage of her. Not a month later, she realizes that she is pregnant and must choose between an abortion and her ice skating career. “The Daughters of Lillth” tells of Manon, a young lady who falls in love with a beautiful actress after taking a post as a script girl for a film company—and is subsequently confronted with the pettiest kinds of homophobia.

Specific to their time yet unquestionably relevant for women today, The Phantom Glare of Day is an understanding coming-of-age story with a compelling interrogation of who gets to decide what is right and what is wrong.

“The Phantom Glare of Day”
M. Laszlo | November 1st, 2022 | | Historical Fiction
Paperback | 9781684631759 | $17.95
Ebook | 9781684631759 | $9.95


M. Laszlo: M. Laszlo is the pseudonym of a reclusive author living in Bath, Ohio. According to rumor, he based the pen name on the name of the Paul Henreid character in Casablanca, Victor Laszlo.

He has lived and worked in New York City, East Jerusalem, and several other cities around the world. While living in the Middle East, he worked for Harvard University’s Semitic Museum. He holds a bachelor’s degree in English from Hiram College in Hiram, Ohio and an M.F.A. in poetry from Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, New York.

His next work is forthcoming from SparkPress in 2024. There are whispers that the work purports to be a genuine attempt at positing an explanation for the riddle of the universe and is based on journals and idea books made while completing his M.F.A at Sarah Lawrence College.


In an interview, M. Laszlo can discuss:

  • His time living in London as a teen and its inspiration in his novellas
  • How he assembled his personal journal into a trio of novellas focused on fictional characters
  • Using the diverse themes and modern social issues and set them in during WWI and post-WWI Europe
  • Creating three novellas that seamlessly blend into each other while also being completely independent
  • His reclusive life and how looking back at his journals inspired him to be an author

An Interview with M. Laszlo

1. What inspired you to write a collection of short stories rather than one overarching narrative story?

Honestly, this work had to be a collection of different works because that was the easiest way to use all the disparate source material. It’s not always good to take the easiest way out, but this was my first book—so I figured why not? From here on, the challenge will be to break apart each idea book so as to create a singular narrative arc. As such, subsequent works will make The Phantom Glare of Day look like child’s play.

2. How did your time living in London affect your process with writing stories set in London? Did it help you capture the city in words?

London introduced me to Britspeak, British colloquialisms, and British phraseology—the kinds of things that don’t necessarily make it into great British novels. At any rate, London made me realize that dialogue has to be real—that characters ought to talk the way people really talk. In a sense, Britspeak does help capture London in that Britspeak makes the characters REAL.

3. What was the process of taking your journals and turning them into fiction like? How did it inspire your work?

At first, the process was entirely scientific: to make sense of all that teenage angst, it was necessary to cut things apart and to isolate variables. Having done that, only brainstorming could help to fill in the blank spaces and to turn the material into actual narrative arcs. Of course, that aspect of the process was anything but scientific.

4. What part of the writing process was most difficult?

It was easy to cut up the journals and to divide ideas into sensible categories. The brainstorming part was the difficult part, of course. After all these years, decades really, the process became a game of finding real, meaningful relationships between disparate concepts. And the stories followed of their own accord.

5. How do these historical stories fit into the narrative we are all facing in our current, modern lives? What will we learn from your characters?

The ethical issues that face modern society never really change all that much. The struggles are eternal and part and parcel of the human condition. My guess is that every reader will learn something different from interacting with my characters. It’s all down to the fact that every reader is unique and struggles with the big moral issues in his or her own way.

6. Why set the stories during WWI rather than in modern day?

Honestly, it all comes down to my love of steampunk and the peculiar technological contraptions of the early twentieth century. As odd as it seems, there’s nothing more romantic! Also, I really want these novellas to be timeless—and few events in history seem as hauntingly timeless as the Great War. At least, that’s always been my feeling.

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An interview with Ericka Arcadia of Hudubam Booktraders

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

I’ve always loved our sci-fi/fantasy area the best because those were the books I carried around when I first started feeling like a reader. I was never the kid who read enough to get a personal pizza for it, and I never had money for book fairs. It used to be on an order system, and when the shipments would arrive I would watch all my classmates get their brand new books with the brand new smell in the air. I borrowed a lot of books from the library at school and boyfriends, and it wasn’t until I read Dune that I felt the magic of what reading does to our minds. I thought, “This Frank Herbert guy thinks I’m smart!”

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I LOVE cover art, and that is a really tough one to narrow down, but Penguin Classics Deluxe Editions (our bookseller Andrew brought those to my attention) are doing the most. I think the best one is the artwork for The Master and Margerita by Mikhail Bulgakov. It’s just gorgeously intriguing.

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

I cannot keep V. E. Schwab‘s books on the shelves and I know why; I am very much enjoying The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue. Backlist: I really love to read anything by Haruki Murakami. I always seem to gravitate back to the first novel of his I read, Sputnik Sweetheart. That feeling of having my mind completely blown just hasn’t really been the same now that I know to expect the unexpected from him.

Do you have a strange customer story?

Probably a very unconventional attachment developed between myself and a customer, Chris, who was a Vietnam Veteran in his 70’s. He loved to talk about 80’s science fiction, fantasy, and horror movies. I saw him almost every day for 18 months, for several hours a day, and we talked about everything all the time. He loved the show Dark Shadows, and I think he used to watch it after he came home from his time in the service. He did two tours. Anyway, he loved the show so much that he would try to strike up a conversation about the show with anyone who would listen, and he had copies of a DVD collection of the show in his bag at all times to give away to people who didn’t know what he was talking about. His brother, who handled his affairs, left us with about 15 copies of the show that Chris said should be given away to anyone interested, and we honor that request to this day.

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

We don’t really get starstruck by authors who come in because we’re a small community, so we all kind of know each other already. On that vibe, our open mics have been magical because it truly feels like we’re together as a family. A writer proposed to his wife during an open mic, so that’s the environment. We haven’t had one since the pandemic, but we’re hoping to set one up again soon.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

It’s work. It takes so much energy to keep things going, and the idea of it just being a “cool hang” doesn’t really get to be realized. You have to derive joy from helping people and making them happy, and I feel like that really comes first.

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

Delegating. I have an amazing crew of booksellers that have finally been made happy by me stepping back from the day to day functions so they can shine in their roles, and that was a hard place for me to come to. But I can trust them, more than myself on a lot of the service requests, and they’re fantastic. It’s just, when you run something yourself for so long, it’s hard to pry your hand off the wheel. My favorite part is ringing up kids who have found something in the 50 cent bin or something lightly used, nice and cheap. They’re going home with something in their hands that they chose and that makes me happy.

What’s the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

I always loved that Nabokov always dedicated his books to his wife, Vera. I think it was the first dedication I ever really noticed, and I took it as, “I didn’t have to do this alone.”

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited, besides your own!

That is a super tough question. Can I give a handful of shout outs? I grew up on Watermark Books in Wichita, KS, and I happily go broke there every time I visit home. I love that Left Bank Books in the Pike Place Market in Seattle is still running their revolution, and that is actually a bookstore that is the same age as I am, so bravo them! And I love Powell’s in Portland It truly was a place that had everything.

Ericka Arcadia is one of the owners of Hudubam Booktraders in Clarksville, TN.

An interview with Grace Hagen of The Novel Neighbor

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

My favorite area of the bookstore is the front window section, both inside and outside facing. It is one of the places where we showcase our values as we highlight monthly themes, books and sidelines relevant to current events. Linda and Michelle are so thoughtful about how they curate the sidewalk-facing window display, I love how it greets our customers and neighbors.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves? In a Garden Burning Gold

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

My staff pick for a recent new release: When Women Were Dragons. It was SO moving. Although this novel is set in an alternate reality and in the past, where some women are actually dragons, it couldn’t be more prescient given our current socio-political environment. This novel quenched an emotional need for me, made me feel more powerful, and more in love with the strength that “ordinary” people can exercise. Barnhill doesn’t preach one right way of being, but is inclusive of myriad identities and presents characters who are complex and imperfect in such an accessible way. Simply LOVED it.

My staff pick for backlist: Beloved. Beloved has been banned from at least five schools in the U.S. despite winning the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction and being nominated for the National Book Award, among many other acclaims. This novel is proof that great art can sometimes create great discomfort. It invites readers to grapple with individual, family, and systemic trauma, while challenging the binary understanding of right and wrong. It brings to life many types of relationships with graphic descriptions, the supernatural, and deep humanity.

Do you have a strange customer story?

The strangest and most delightful customer story I have is when an adorable toddler was in the store intently reading (or pretending to read?) How Not to Become a Little Old Lady like it was full of the secrets to life!

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

I was absolutely starstruck when I met Claudia Rankine a few years ago. Her talk was so generous – she gave up a lot of emotional labor to the audience during the Q and A – and so prescient.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

There are two misconceptions I regularly encounter. One is that we get to read all day at work, which sounds dreamy but is so not true. The other is that we are just a tiny staff of book lovers. The truth is that we are book lovers, but we have a very large staff (20 people!) of highly skilled professionals in various roles related to the work of an independent bookstore.

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

My least favorite bookstore task is bookcover stripping. I understand the reason for the process, but it does hurt my soul a bit.

My favorite part about working in a bookstore: This is such a hard question to answer which makes me feel SO lucky to have my job in particular at The Novel Neighbor! I get to do many different things that bring me joy, like supporting and amplifying local activists addressing important socio-political issues that impact the community. It’s also such a delight that part of my job is to intentionally celebrate our staff and affirm their incredible work on individual and collective levels.

Can you recommend an underrated readalike book for one of the store’s top titles?

We sell a lot of Emily Henry’s Beach Read and an underrated comp for that is The Roughest Draft. We have an amazing romance customer community and the agreement is that it’s a great readalike!

Grace Hagen is the Director of Operations and Inclusion at The Novel Neighbor in St. Louis.

An interview with Gretchen Shuler of Fiction Addiction

What is your favorite area of your bookstore?

Walking into the front door. We are a small store, so when you walk into the store you are enveloped with the new book smell, and it is akin to getting a hug from the books.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I have two favorite covers that I make sure are facing out: The Girl Who Fell Beneath the Sea by Axie Oh, because of the beautiful colors and intricate designs that tells as much of a story as the book itself, and The Wedding Veil by Kristy Woodson Harvey, because it’s a beautiful bride walking in front of the Biltmore House.

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

My favorite new release staff pick right now is The Dead Romantics by Ashley Poston. The idea of a ghost writer falling in love with a ghost was an intriguing idea. Then you add in Ashley’s punny antidotes and you have a book that will keep you giggling all the way through.

My favorite backstock pick is The Raven Boys by Maggie Stiefvater. It’s a modern twist of a gothic tale that follows three three prep school boys on a quest to find a lost king. It is my go to whenever I need a reading pick me up.

Do you have a strange customer story?

I don’t have a strange customer story, but I do have a very memorable customer experience that happened a few months ago. I had a family (grandmother, mother, and daughter) come to the store on a Saturday afternoon. They were very excited to be at the store. While they were looking around, they told me their story. They were on a book road trip from Alabama. The daughter was an avid reader, and loved in-person author events. However, the pandemic had stopped these events. So the grandmother gave her a road trip to all of the independent bookstores that had signed books of her favorite authors from Alamaba to the Northern Banks, North Carolina. We were the middle point of their journey. It was so much fun to hear about the different stores they had visited, and to see their enthusiasm while exploring the store.

What author have you been starstruck to meet or have gotten to host a fun virtual event?

I am a huge fangirl when it comes to authors. My work shirt says it all, “Professional Fangirl.” The best starstruck moment was meeting Alex London at YALLFest in Charleston, South Carolina. I had read his book Proxy, and I had made him a bookmark as a gift to celebrate his book. I was such a nervous wreck, I could not keep my hands from shaking. He took the time to talk to me and take a picture. It was one of my favorite moments meeting an author.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

One major misconception I have seen is that people think we have read every book in the store.

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

My least favorite task is standing on a foot stool to get items off the high shelves. I am terribly afraid of heights (even the height of a step stool), and it always feels like I am walking on a tightrope. My favorite part of working in the bookstore is setting up the window displays. I love the ability to be creative and come up with new ideas. Some of my favorite window designs were our Black History Month window and Pride month window. I’m currently working on a Banned Books month display.

Can you recommend an underrated read alike book for one of the store’s top titles?

I actually had an encounter with a customer with a similar request a few weeks ago. She had just read Emma Straub’s This Time Tomorrow. She said she really enjoyed it, and wanted something similar but original. I recommend Before the Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi. The books are similar with mystical realism, time travel, and family dynamics.

What is the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

My most favorite dedication was in My Lady Jane by Cynthia Hand, Brodi Ashton, and Jodi Meadows, the dedication reads:
“For everyone who knows there was enough room for Leonard DiCaprio on that door.
And for England. We’re really sorry for what we’re about to do to your history.”

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited besides your own?

Blue Bicycle Books in Charleston, S.C.

Gretchen Shuler is a bookseller at Fiction Addiction in Greenville, S.C.