An interview with Casella Brookins of City Lit Books

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

I’m our resident speculative fiction specialist, so I spend a lot of time in Science Fiction & Fantasy. We put a big focus on written staff recommendations here, and I get a lot of satisfaction from writing “talkers” that get great, semi-obscure SFF titles into the hands of people who wouldn’t normally think of themselves as genre readers.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I adore the illustration work Rovina Cai’s been doing, and I face out Nicola Griffith’s Spear whenever I get the chance; it helps that I found the book delightful as well. But there’s so many great cover designs right now — Jeff VanderMeer’s Picador paperbacks are superb, for example, and Simon Prade’s cover for Simon Jimenez’s The Spear Cuts Through Water (another one I loved, and reviewed) is just stunning.

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

Ned Beauman’s Venomous Lumpsucker is definitely my top pick from this summer, but it’s been a good year. Backlist? I’ve got too many to list—I will say that getting more people to read Sofia Samatar’s A Stranger in Olondria and The Winged History is part of my secret job description.

Do you have a strange customer story?

Not all that strange, but I’m always amused when people say, “I didn’t know if it was okay to take this book off the display!” Like: please! We made them hoping you would!

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

I don’t usually get starstruck, but I could make a case for being the world’s biggest C.J. Cherryh fan, and the language centers of my brain literally shut down when she was in Chicago for a signing a few years ago. City Lit hosted a few online bookclubs for this year’s Hugo Award finalists—as part of Chicon Fringe—that were a lot of fun.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

That the actual job involves reading! Also, I think most people don’t realize the physical labor in a bookstore—it’s the equivalent of packing up and moving every week or two.

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

Doing returns is definitely my least favorite, just kinda spiritually. You want every—well, okay, most—books to succeed, but we don’t have infinite space, and new books are always being written, so we have to make room.

Favorite part is when a customer comes back to let us know that our idiosyncratic recommendation connected them with something they loved—knowing that they would never have wound up with that particular book if they hadn’t come in to our shop.

Can you recommend an underrated readalike book for one of the store’s top titles?

I love when people need a follow-up to Emily St. John Mandel: her books have so many threads leading off to other works. For fans of Sea of Tranquility, I might recommend Michael Zapata’s The Lost Book of Adana Moreau: that sense of place, the multi-generational nature of the story. Plus it’s just beautifully-written.

What’s the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

“For thirty-five years now I’ve been in wastepaper, and it’s my love story.” Bohumil Hrabal’s incomparable Too Loud a Solitude.

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited, besides your own!

Oh my gosh, there’s so many—tons of favorites right here in Chicago. I think I want to shout out to Small World Books in Venice Beach, however—whenever I’ve wound up in LA, I often find myself kind of at loose ends near there, and it’s a wonderful oasis. Have never failed to pick up something great and unexpected there.

Casella Brookins is the assistant manager at City Lit Books in Chicago.

 

Ask an Expert: A Conversation with Wes J. Bryant on Editing Tips from an Author-Turned-Editor

When should an author hire an editor? How much “pre-editing” should an author do before sending their manuscript off for an edit? Can authors professionally edit their own manuscripts?

These are some of the many editing questions we’ve heard from authors over the years, and today on the blog we’re getting answers from professional Books Fluent editor and published author Wes J. Bryant, who has a unique understanding of editing from “both sides of the desk.”

Wes is the coauthor of the book Hunting the Caliphate: America’s War on ISIS and the Dawn of the Strike Cell, a first-person account cowritten alongside the former ground force commander of Iraq, retired Major General Dana J.H. Pittard.

An accomplished editor, Wes details what authors should consider before turning in their manuscripts for a professional edit.

How does your background as a published author influence your perspective as an editor?

Great question! First, it gives me a passion for helping shape and polish the work of fellow authors. In my own published work, I’ve had some great editors and then I’ve had some who clearly didn’t put a lot of effort in, or maybe didn’t know what they were doing—the difference is very easily noticeable. And it’s very disappointing as an author to get your manuscript back and feel like the person who was supposed to help you either didn’t care about your work or shouldn’t be doing editing. I am adamant about putting the same effort into every job that I’d want someone else to put into my own work. Second, I’m able to take lessons learned from my own published material—what I thought went great, and what I’d have changed in hindsight—and apply those lessons to my editing jobs.

What’s one of the most common, seemingly simple edits you come across that most authors overlook?

Well, maybe this isn’t that “simple,” but it’s very common: I’ve found that many authors tend to over-capitalize. Proper nouns abound! In non-fiction, you have to figure out when your word usage constitutes a proper noun and when it does not (sometimes it varies, given the context) and so, it’s a little challenging at times. Fiction is a bit easier but also tricky, because a fiction writer, depending on the material, often has the flexibility of being able to “make up” their own proper nouns. Think of a fantasy novel and all the different beings or races and whatever else you can conjure up in your own world. But that can still get to be too much. You have to read through your own work from a reader’s perspective and ask yourself honestly how it reads. Lots of capitalizations hurt the flow. That may be one of my “isms” as an editor, but I’m sticking to it!

What should an author consider before turning in their manuscript for a professional edit?

Running your own edits and proofreads before handing it in for professional editing will likely give you a better end-product. I’ve had jobs where the work was very rough, and arguably could have been cleaned up a little more by the author before going to professional editing. As an editor, I’m happy to do any of the work necessary. But if I spend much of my focus on fixing a lot of fairly simple mistakes as I go through a manuscript, it will naturally detract from some of the other polishing I might otherwise do. Not intentionally by any means—simply as a byproduct of being bogged down with all the fixes.

Do you find it easier to edit someone else’s work, or your own?

It is far easier to edit others’ work, without a doubt! I have become a staunch proponent of the idea that every author—no matter how great—needs more than one outside pair of eyes and objective editing. I near-obsessively edit my own work and yet, every time I hand it over to someone else especially an experienced editor, there are inevitably things that I somehow missed even going over it a hundred times, or suggestions that never dawned on me for things like clarity, brevity, rearranging a section, etc.

Bonus: In your opinion, what does it mean to be a “successful” writer?

Well, what is successful always comes down to how you define success. I think that, culturally, the most common idea of success as a writer is how many books or other publications you’ve sold, or whether you had something go mainstream or even turn into a movie or television adaptation. That is certainly a measure of success. But the truth is that there is some very subpar content out there that still makes a lot of money and has great financial return. It’s not always about the quality of the writing or material. Sometimes it’s more about who it was marketed to, or who it was written by.

But I define success differently. To me, success as a writer means that your words have had a positive impact on someone, somewhere, at some time. Through the words you crafted, you communicated something that had an enriching effect in the world, be it by invoking wonder, by relaying information to make someone better informed in a subject, by making someone feel a powerful emotion or experience, or even just by entertaining and immersing a reader into a made-up world. To communicate anything that carries a real, enriching impact, that’s success to me. The handful of messages I’ve received, or in-person encounters I’ve had, where someone thanked me for what I wrote and relayed how it enlightened or helped them in some way or that my words had an emotional impact—that is like gold and means more than any proceeds or royalties (although, those are nice too if they come in!).

Wes J. Bryant is a retired master sergeant and former special operations joint terminal attack controller in the elite special warfare branch of the U.S. Air Force. He is an author, editor, and defense analyst with focus on foreign policy, counterterrorism, and extremism, and works as a defense and aerospace professional specializing in advanced communications technologies. Wes holds a Bachelor of Arts in Asian Studies from the University of Maryland, a Master of Professional Studies in Publishing through George Washington University, and is currently pursuing his Master of Science in Business and STEM studies through George Washington University. He has contributed to such outlets as the Washington Post, New York Times, Politico, Military Times, Insider, Task & Purpose, Real Clear Defense, and the Institute for Irregular Warfare and Lieber Institute for Law and Warfare at West Point, and has been a guest contributor on BNC News. You can follow him on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram @wesjbryant, LinkedIn, or visit his site at wesjbryant.com.

Hollywood producer pens memoir navigating IVF, raising triplets, and parenting in an ever-changing America

LOS ANGELES – The world is constantly changing — technology, sports, the environment, politics. So how do you raise a new generation of children in a country that’s changed so much from when you were a kid? In his humorous and heartwarming memoir “Not Your Father’s America,” (Jan. 17, 2023, Chandler Press) longtime Hollywood producer Cort Casady exposes the emotional turmoil, joys and challenges of bringing up triplets in an America vastly changed from the one in which he was raised.

Barbara and Cort were a happily married couple when they decided to have children. But they had no idea the struggle and dangers they would face getting pregnant, as well as a heartbreaking loss. When the couple finally become pregnant and safely deliver triplets, they must dive in — overwhelmed and outnumbered — to face the exhausting and unrelenting demands of caring for three babies at once. Following the boys as they grow up, Casady includes numerous anecdotes, stories and ingenious discoveries that every parent can appreciate. Through it all, the author offers insightful commentary about his father’s America, the America he and his brothers were raised in, and the America his sons are inheriting, all while examining how economic injustice, deregulation and greed are affecting and undermining the American experience.

“Not Your Father’s America” is a vivid account of an extraordinary family forged out of determination, patience, acceptance, discipline and love — lots of love.


About the Author

Cort Casady has won two Emmy Awards and three NAACP Image Awards for his work as a television and documentary writer-producer. He won his first Emmy for “New York at Night Starring Clint Holmes,” and his second for the “American Film Institute (AFI) Life Achievement Award: A Tribute to Mel Brooks” (2014). His numerous credits include creating the original story and characters for the television mini-series, “Kenny Rogers as The Gambler,” helping to format and launch the long-running reality competition series, “Star Search” with Ed McMahon, and co-creating television’s first weekly environmental series “Earthbeat”, which aired as “Network Earth” on TBS for five years.

Since 2003, Casady has served as Supervising Producer of the American Film Institute Life Achievement Award tributes to America’s leading actors and filmmakers. In addition to his Image Award-winning specials for Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson and Lionel Richie, he has also written and produced televised musical-documentary tributes to R&B legends Quincy Jones, Aretha Franklin, Patti LaBelle and Chaka Khan..

Casady is the co-author of two previously published books: “The Singing Entertainer: The Art & Business of Being a Professional,” a how-to book for performers; and “You Oughta Be Me: How to Be a Lounge Singer and Live Like One by the Fabulous Bud E. Luv,” a humorous faux autobiography of a delusional performer. Casady is also the co-author with Mary Miller of the musical play, “King of the Road: The Roger Miller Story” which had its world premiere at the Laguna Playhouse in Laguna Beach, California, in 2017.
Born in McAllen, Texas, Casady grew up in El Cajon, California, near San Diego. After graduating from Harvard with an honors degree in government, Casady moved to Los Angeles to pursue his career in the entertainment business. He and his wife, Barbara raised their triplet sons in Manhattan Beach, California. They now live on the Palos Verdes Peninsula south of L.A. For more info on Casady, visit cortcasady.com.

Follow Cort Casady on Instagram: @cortcasady


In an interview, Cort Casady can discuss:

  • His long and varied career in the entertainment industry as a writer and producer
  • The intimacy of writing and publishing a memoir
  • How his family’s journey with infertility and IVF informed the writing of his memoir
  • How the memoir incorporates subjects like deregulation and climate change into the narrative and why those topics are pertinent to parenting
  • What he hopes readers will take away from reading his family’s story

An Interview with Cort Casady

What made you decide to write a book about your experience as a father?

After I became a father, I initially thought about writing an open letter to our sons. I wanted to give them a sense of what we went through to have them and raise them as well as some perspective on the America they were being born into, beyond the obvious “before there was Google.”

What I finally decided to write, as I explain in the preface, is a book that combines two passions, serves two masters and weaves together two decidedly different narratives.

One is a narrative about what it’s like to be hit by the “baby bus” and have three kids at once. The other is a series of reflections along the way, as the boys go from being infants to toddlers to adolescents and young adults. About the America my father grew up in, the America I came up in, and the America our sons are inheriting.

How has your experience in the entertainment industry helped you — or hindered you — when it comes to writing books?

My experience as a working writer, first as a freelance magazine writer, then as a staff writer in television, prepared me to be an author. I first learned that I could write in college. When I finished writing my thesis, by myself over the Christmas holiday break in my senior year, I realized I could write and, more importantly, finish what I was writing. That, and a good outline, enabled me to complete the first book I wrote, for singer John Davidson.

The book is very personal: How did you decide what details you would include and what topics were off-limits?

Fortunately, there weren’t a lot of details I couldn’t include in the book. Barbara read each draft, so I felt confident there wasn’t anything inappropriate in the book. In writing about our sons’ experiences with a bad coach in high school, I decided not to go into too much detail. It was such a disturbing time; it could almost be a book on its own, a book I have no desire to write, by the way.

What do your family members think about you writing the book?

Barbara read virtually every draft of the book as I was writing it. She corroborated memories, corrected facts, and typos, and encouraged me frequently throughout the process. Our sons encouraged me throughout the process of writing and getting the book published as well. Having shared notes and journal entries with them before I started writing in earnest, they had a pretty good idea of what Dad was going to write. All three have fully supported the project and believe it’s a story worth chronicling. They’ve been very complimentary.

What do you hope readers gain from this book?

I hope readers will take away what we learned raising triplets: Don’t panic; take it one day at a time; stay committed; and don’t give up. I also hope they’ll be reminded that we have a lot of work to do as a country to live up to the promise of America, a promise I fervently hope our children will experience. I also hope readers will take seriously what we all must do to meet the climate crisis. The clock is ticking.

What projects are you working on that people can look forward to?

I’m developing a feature-length documentary film. 100% Possible: The Battle for the World’s Energy Future is about a series of science-based plans to power America and more than 100 other countries with electricity generated solely by wind, water, and the sun. Developed by a group of scientists led by Stanford University climate professor Mark Jacobson, the plans will be presented to the general public for the first time in this groundbreaking film. A positive, solutions-driven documentary, the film will document how clean, renewable energy will slow global warming, deliver environmental justice, and create millions of jobs worldwide.

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An interview with Mika Tuzon of Scrawl Bookstore

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

I love our fiction wall at Scrawl– it takes up an entire wall of the store from floor to ceiling and it gets the best natural light!

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I am definitely guilty of judging a book by its cover. They’re more often art pieces in and of themselves (it’s a plus when the content is great, too)! Disorientation by Elaine Hsieh Chou is a recent favorite– the cover is what sold me on grabbing this title and I always make sure it’s out for the customers to see. I’m obsessed with the pink ombre and all the floating objects. I would love to know in general how authors go about deciding on their book covers. It seems like such a vital part of the process– it is the first thing readers see when they’re deciding on their next read, after all!

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

Two Brown Dots is a collection of poetry that came out in late April by Danni Quintos. It’s separated into three parts– Girlhood, Motherhood, and Folklore. Danni deep dives into what it means to grow up Filipina American and navigate the world as a woman of color in her poetry with exquisite vulnerability. I’m a little biased as she is my friend and fellow Kentuckian writer– she’s the first person I really saw myself represented in as far as poets go. As far as backlist titles, there are so many! I’ll just list out some favorites: Brown Girls by Daphne Palasi Andreades, The Mismatch by Sara Jafari, World of Wonders by Aimee Nezhukumatathil, The Vanishing Half by Brit Bennett, Daisy Jones & the Six by Taylor Jenkins Reid, Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid, and anything by Mary H.K. Choi and Jenny Han!

Do you have a strange customer story?

There was a customer that came in one time that was incredibly rude and seemed eerily familiar, so naturally I looked her up (as one does). I probably can’t go into too much detail about who she is, but let’s just say I had seen her on TV before as she was one of the defense attorneys for a man in Hollywood who had fallen from grace.

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

We had an event with Monica Hesse a couple of years ago. She’s a columnist for the Washington Post who focuses on topics of gender and she’s written amazing YA historical fiction like The War Outside
and Girl in the Blue Coat. That event was coincidentally attended by mostly teen femmes– it was so lovely to witness their energy and enthusiasm as they asked her a lot of questions regarding writing and journalism. She is also just a really lovely person!

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

People often romanticize working in a bookstore. Booksellers do a lot of heavy lifting– literally! Contrary to popular belief, we spend little to no time reading during our shifts. Sometimes, it’s just one person to a shift, which means one person is receiving shipment, answering the phone, shelving, manning the register, restocking, bringing out curbside pickups, helping customers, the list goes on and on! That being said, I wouldn’t trade this job experience for anything. It’s really special to work at a family-owned independent bookstore. Another big misconception– meet cutes don’t happen here! At least I haven’t witnessed or been part of one.

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

Restocking can be a pain– our shelves are more often than not filled to the brim! However, I prefer restocking and shelving to receiving shipments. There’s a lot of little steps required of receiving shipments so it’s easy to mess up. I’ve been here for five years, so I have lots of practice at getting more titles to fit on our shelves. Also, shelving often gives me the opportunity to find books I never would have thought to look at. I often go home with my discoveries– it’s exciting for my TBR pile, not exciting for my wallet! I think the worst part about working at the bookstore is when people are rude about the mask policy. We still require them which I truly appreciate, and most customers are understanding. However, we get the occasional naysayer which can be a little hit to the positivity I try to exude while I’m at the store. My most favorite part though is getting to know our neighborhood regulars. We have quite a few people who come in and/or order from us very frequently. I love when they come in and I remember them by name– people love being remembered! Getting to talk about books everyday is a big win, too.

Can you recommend an underrated read alike book for one of the store’s top titles? (For example: If your store sells a lot of The Song of Achilles, you might recommend Tin Man.)

If you’re a fan of nonfiction books like Crying in Hmart, you’d definitely enjoy Carefree Black Girls: A Celebration of Black Girls in Popular Culture by Zeba Blay. I believe this book deserves more love and is essential reading for all– it was my favorite read of 2021 by far. It’s a collection of essays that ponders
Black women and their contributions to culture in general. Blay’s wit and insight are razor sharp, and it’s great to see women of color celebrated. More of that, please!

Mika Tuzon is a bookseller at Scrawl Books

 

The girl was always told she was evil, but is she really?

Debut author subverts “good girl” trope in dark YA fantasy series

LAS VEGAS, Nevada – What if you were told from the moment you were born that you were evil? Debut author Victory Witherkeigh creates a thrilling YA story that subverts expectations and finds that your true self is more important than what you’ve been told. Breaking through the good girl, virginal heroine stereotypes and inspired by Filipino mythology and gods, “The Girl,” (Cinnabar Moth Publishing, Dec 6, 2022) will blur the line between what is good and what is evil.

Already a finalist for Killer Nashville’s Claymore Award in 2020, The Girl follows a nameless main character only known as The Girl. She’s been told since a very young age that she was a mistake, a demon who shouldn’t have been born. Shunned by her parents, she’s shuffled between her parents’ and grandparents’ homes until her eighteenth birthday. The Girl is baffled by her ordinary life in Los Angeles. For all intents and purposes, she’s just like everyone else. That is, until the Demon comes to claim her.

Striving to bring more diversity to her story, Victory employs her Filipina/Pacific Islander heritage by combining pre-colonial myths of gods and demons and a modern setting creating the unique coming-of-age story of a first generation-born American. Victory Witherkeigh is able to connect her story with thousands of young first-generation American readers looking to see themselves in modern-day fantasy stories.

By developing a character that flits between human and demon, Victory creates an anti-heroine, a female character who isn’t your typical Mary Sue archetype. Resisting the urge to create another “golden” hero character in a fantasy story, The Girl examines the gray areas of growing up as a young female navigating through rejection, lost friendships, hurt relationships, and choosing imperfection.

For fans of The Sandman series and Wicked Fox, The Girl is an unlikely coming-of-age story filled with the search for identity, understanding parent expectations, and realizing that sometimes evil isn’t what you expect it to be.

“The Girl”
Victory Witherkeigh | December 6th, 2022
Cinnabar Moth Publishing | YA dark fantasy
Hardcover | 9781953971616 | $23.99
Paperback | 9781953971609 | $15.99
Ebook | 9781953971623 | $4.99


VICTORY WITHERKEIGH: Victory Witherkeigh is a female Filipino/PI author originally from Los Angeles, CA, currently living in the Las Vegas area. Victory was a finalist for Wingless Dreamer’s 2020 Overcoming Fear Short Story award and a 2021 winner of the Two Sisters Writing and Publishing Short Story Contest. She has print publications in the horror anthologies Supernatural Drabbles of Dread through Macabre Ladies Publishing, Bodies Full of Burning through Sliced Up Press, and In Filth It Shall Be Found through OutCast Press. Written during NaNoWriMo, Victory’s first novel, set to debut in December 2022 with Cinnabar Moth Publishing, has been a finalist for Killer Nashville’s 2020 Claymore Award, a 2020 Cinnamon Press Literature Award Honoree, and long-listed in the 2021 Voyage YA Book Pitch Contest. Find out more about her at: https://teikitu.com/

Photo credit: Kat Goodloe

Follow Victory on social media:
Facebook: @victorywitherkeigh | Twitter: @witherkeigh | Instagram: @victory_witherkeigh

In an interview, Victory can discuss:

  • The Filipino mythology that inspired her writing process
  • Her thoughts on the stereotypical “golden” girl heroine and how she subverts that
  • Resisting the idea that all female characters must be likable and good from the start
  • Her process writing an anti-heroine
  • The importance of stories about claiming agency for young female readers
  • The importance of diversity among characters, especially within niche genres
  • Writing her book through National Novel Writing Month

An Interview with Victory Witherkeigh

Can you talk about the initial inspiration for this book? Did it come from any sort of myth or folklore?

This book was inspired by some of the pre-colonial myths and legends from the Philippines and French Polynesia that I grew up hearing.

What originally got you into the genre of dark fantasy? DId you write in any other genres before finding your love for this one?

I was a very nerdy kid growing up – reading R.L. Stine and Christopher Pike to Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. I’ve tried writing in high fantasy but the darkness always seemed to come very easily.

The first draft of this novel came from NaNoWriMo, right? Could you talk about that experience?

When I first started dabbling with the idea of being a writer, I began with short stories. Once those began to get picked up, I decided to use NaNoWriMo to see if I could get this book out of me. I will say it flowed a lot faster than I thought it would.

What did your writing process look like?

I’m a night owl, so I find that I need to put my errands and gym time all to the morning. I tend to give myself time bounds – write for 20-30 minutes at a time to see how much my mind is willing to go into. I always shoot for at least 100 words a day.

Who is this book for? What people would you most recommend it to?

I would say this book is for the teenage girls like myself who never felt like they were truly squeaky clean enough to be the heroine or not quite attractive enough to be the anti-hero. I would recommend this book to those who enjoy reading about the grayness in the coming of age stories – the fact that the journey itself is messy, turbulent, and terrifying.

The main character of this book is considered an “unlikeable female character.” How did you go about creating the girl?

The girl almost wrote herself with just some of the trials and tribulations one witnesses in grade school and high school amongst young women. I remember trying to read The Babysitters’ Club books and not being able to get past the first few chapters because it seemed too unrealistic that that many young women could be friends given that at that time the growing cliques were dividing my classroom.

What part of The Girl was the most fun to write?

Without spoiling too much, I would say any of the traveling chapters were probably my favorite. All the real world places mentioned in The Girl are trips I had taken myself as a young child through my teenage years and it was so much fun to revisit those historic sites and cities.

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Debut domestic thriller packs a punch as family secrets come to light — and we’re reminded our past is never a thing of the past

TAMPA BAY, Fla.How far would you go to keep what’s yours? Debut author Marie Still is searching for the answer in her exciting new psychological thriller, “We’re All Lying,” (March 14, 2023, Rising Action Publishing). Exploring the weight of family secrets — and how far we’ll go to keep them — this dark, twisty novel is sure to thrill fans of Gillian Flynn and Karin Slaughter.

Someone is hunting Cass. She lives an enviable life: a successful career, two great kids, and a handsome husband. Then an email from her husband’s mistress, Emma, brings the façade of perfection crumbling around her, setting off a chain of events where buried secrets come back to haunt her. A taunting email turns into stalking and escalates into much worse. Ethan and Cass try to move on, then Emma disappears. No longer considered a victim, Cass finds herself the prime suspect and center of the investigation. Her dark secrets — including ones she didn’t know existed — threaten to destroy everything they’ve worked for.

A fast-paced psychological thriller with jaw-dropping twists, the novel examines buried family secrets and how desperation can lead to fatal mistakes when “We’re All Lying.”

“We’re All Lying”
Marie Still | March 14, 2023 | Rising Action Publishing | Psychological Thriller
Paperback, ISBN, $22.99 | Ebook, ISBN, $9.99


About the Author

MARIE STILL grew up obsessed with words and the dark and complex characters authors bring to life with them. Now she creates her own while living in Tampa with her husband, four kids, two dogs, and a very grumpy hedgehog. Her debut novel, “We’re All Lying” will be released March 14, 2023, from Rising Action Publishing. “Beverly Bonnefinche is Dead” “My Darlings” will follow in late 2023 and 2024, respectively. She also writes under Kristen Seeley. Find out more about Marie at mariestill.com.

Follow Marie Still on social media:
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About Rising Action Publishing

Rising Action Publishing is an independent publishing house committed to diverse stories and who is passionate about literature and sharing authors’ stories with the world. A member of IBPA, their commitment extends to readers, and their carefully curated collection of books includes unputdownable page-turners across many genres, delivering surprise and delight and that are filled with emotion.

Rising Action Publishing is more than a publisher, and it considers authors family. They support the authors they represent to ensure their books garner the attention and dedication they deserve. They never charge reading fees and are not a hybrid or vanity press. Their authors enjoy 360° support from start to finish, including all formats (digital, print, audio), wide channel and market distribution, marketing and advertising, public relations, ARC programs, the highest quality editing, formatting, cover design and more.

Follow Rising Action on social media: Facebook | Twitter | Instagram


In an interview, Marie Still can discuss:

  • The journey behind releasing her debut novel
  • The novel’s numerous themes, including jealousy, marriage and family
  • How her experience living in Tampa Bay, Florida, inspired the book’s setting
  • Where the book is situated in the domestic thriller/domestic noir landscape
  • Projects she’s working on next, including 2023 and 2024 releases

An interview with Marie Still

“We’re All Lying” is your debut novel. What was the process like getting your first book published?

I was in the process of querying “Beverly Bonnefinche is Dead” when I wrote “We’re All Lying.” I queried the book for two weeks and had13 agents show interest. On the third week, I received an offer from Rising Action Publishing for both books. I was drawn to their business model and passion for both stories, so decided to sign unagented. Since then, I’ve signed my third book “My Darlings” with them.

Jealousy is one of the key themes of the book. Why did you want to explore that emotion?

I’m drawn to human emotions, especially the darker ones. Jealousy can bore beneath people’s skin and change them as a person. It’s consuming and can make them act out of character — or bring a side of their personality to the forefront they wish would stay buried. Jealousy is often immediately associated with love and relationships, but it really extends beyond that.

We live in a world where people can curate the life they want people to see: They use social media to post the good, while hiding the bad. When you’re an observer of this, who may not be happy or comfortable with your life and in your skin, it can breed jealousy. The sad side of this is the detrimental effect it can have on mental health. The scary side is when people, driven by jealousy, act on it and do bad things.

The book also delves into the value of family

Family means something different to everyone. Some people are lucky enough to grow up in loving nurturing homes, and others don’t get that. But your family is your foundation, these people who you didn’t choose have a huge impact on the person you grow into. Even in the most stable of homes, we’re all human, and parents make mistakes. I think the other thing explored in “We’re All Lying” is what makes a family. Sometimes it isn’t blood, and rather the people who are there for you when you’re at your best and when you’re at your worst.

Without any spoilers: What parts of the book were difficult for you to write? Which sections came easier?

It was really important for me to write Cass’ pain, anger, hurt in a realistic way. This took me putting myself in her shoes and conjuring up every time I’ve had my heart broken. I cried with Cass while writing those scenes. I’ve had early readers contact me and tell me how raw and real the emotions felt. While the “I never saw that twist coming!” emails are always fun, those readers who really understood Cass have meant the world to me.

How is “We’re All Lying” different from some of the other domestic thrillers out there?

“We’re All Lying” isn’t an affair book; it’s not a stalker book; it’s not a missing girl book. It has all of those things that have been folded into a story with characters who are flawed and messy and real. There are characters you will hate, and that’s OK — you’re supposed to. I’m such a fan of the genre, I’d never want to say it’s better or worse than what’s out there. I’m just happy that it will find its home on shelves with readers who enjoy the ride as much as I enjoyed crafting it.

Did you learn anything about yourself throughout the process of writing and publishing the book?

When you are first starting as a writer it’s hard to believe in yourself. Writing is a lonely process. I have an amazing community of writing friends, but imposter syndrome is a sneaky little thing and can catch you off-guard.
Having a team at my publisher who believes in my stories, and now as it has started to make its way into readers’ hands, gives me the confidence to continue opening my computer and putting words to paper.

Also, publishing is slow. I have learned that I can (surprisingly) be patient(ish).

What do you hope readers gain from reading the novel?

An escape, a thrill, an unguessable twisty ride that keeps them flipping the pages, and a few sleepless nights. As an avid thriller reader, I hope to give my readers what so many authors have gifted me. I love thrillers because of the constant questions and revelations they create throughout the scenes for readers, those breadcrumbs and “OMG” moments you get until you reach the final big reveal.

And last but not least: What projects are you working on next?

My current work in progress folder is filled with 14 concepts that I’ll eventually get to. But right now, I have two main projects. “The Woman From 3A” (a working title) is a dual-timeline thriller where Arden has disappeared. It opens with incredibly odd footage of her taken from her apartment building’s security camera. With police not moving fast enough, and her best friend Kat fearing the worst, she takes matters into her own hands to find out what happened to Arden before it’s too late. My other work-in-progress is a story that’s been floating around my head for a few years now. It takes place in The Village of Lucketts (where my family lived before we moved to Tampa). A tight-knit community has been living there, hiding their dark and creepy ways in plain sight, since first settling there in 1718.

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2-mil-copy-bestselling Brazilian author pens first English novel

Music, mystery, and coming-of-age in magical US YA debut

SÃO PAULO, Brazil– Sway to the beat of beauty and poetry in “The Musician” (Dec 13, 2022, Koehler Books) a new YA novel by multi award-winning Brazilian author, Heloisa Prieto. With over 2 million books sold in Brazil, Prieto is already a household name. But her long-standing success hasn’t stopped her from dazzling her readers with lyrical prose and spell-binding stories. With The Musician, she will debut her first English-written story within the US, uniting Brazilian mythology and the Guarani culture in a magical setting.

With the success of her Mano series in Brazil, Prieto’s books are no stranger to the limelight. Famous for her Mano series that was adapted into the 2011 International Film Festival for Children and Young Adults (FICI) award-winning film, “The Best Things in the World”, Prieto approaches her newest story in a different way creating a timeless and magical coming-of-age story filled with poetry, romance, and mystery.

It follows a young Thomas whose only companions are the musical creatures only he can see. As a famous musician, he’s able to hide the lingering pain of his childhood using music as a form of connecting with the rest of the world. But when people find out about his magical creatures, they plan to steal it for themselves through seduction. With the help of Marlui, a young Guarani shaman, Thomas must face down his demons in this offbeat love triangle.

For fans of Paulo Coehlo and Sally Rooney, readers will be entranced by this magical journey of self-discovery and the belief in the unseen.

“The Musician”
Heloisa Prieto | December 13, 2022 | Köehler Books | Contemporary magical realism
Hardcover | 978-1-64663-864-2 | $28.95
Paperback | 978-1-64663-862-8 | $15.95
Ebook | 978-1-64663-863-5 | $7.95

HELOISA PRIETO is one of Brazil’s most celebrated children and YA authors. She has sold over two million books in her native country. Her Mano series of YA novels inspired the Time Warner movie The Best Things in the World. She recently published 1,002 Ghosts, and her book Viajantes do Vento was selected for the PNLD Public-Book Purchasing Programme, the biggest of its kind in the world.

She has spent a lifetime researching myths and legends–both ancient and modern–and organizing and curating collections of cross-cultural interest. She has created and organized numerous creative writing workshops for children, teenages, and adults. Heloisa also has a PhD in French literature (University of São Paulo) and a master’s degree in semiotics (Catholic University of São Paulo). Find out more about her here.

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In an interview, Heloisa can discuss:

  • Her journey from writing as a young kindergarten teacher to releasing over 90 books with 2 million copies sold
  • The impact Brazilian culture has had on this English language debut
  • How she intertwines ancient myths with contemporary characters
  • The importance of preserving and learning from indigenous traditions in the Brazilian forest, and how they inspired this story
  • Her move into English-written stories and debut in the US

Advance Praise for The Musician

“There is magic in music, and Heloisa Prieto’s elegant prose captures the marriage of the two in a fanciful narrative that also touches the heart’s most profound truths. Accessible, readable, subtle, and often delightful, The Musician draws us forward with a fresh tale that carries deep messages of time, place and the integrity inherent in each soul, to be read slowly and savored for its whimsy, and its wisdom.”

– Greg Fields 2022 Winner, Independent Press Award for Literary Fiction

“‘The Musician’ is a beautifully crafted story involving elements of the supernatural; reminiscent of Edgar Allan Poe. Heloisa Prieto’s pen draws with bold strokes a kaleidoscope of characters in this unique story, explosive in its power to wrap the reader in a fabric of tension which is compelling and alive.”

– Claire Galligan, International Award winning Theater Director, Radio Producer, and Writer

“A narrative which by the magic of music leads us to resignify Orpheus’ classical Greek myth intertwined by the fight for the indigenous forest people preservation and the urgent need to face the ecological issue that is threatening our planet. The characters of this entrancing book shall transform you, in a way or the other… “

– Maria José Silveira, Acclaimed award-winning Brazilian author of the awarded novel “Her Mother´s Mother´s Mother & her Daughters”

“While reading “The Musician” I experienced some of the pleasures which, according to Séan O´Faoláin, a creative narrative offers: the good yarn, suspense, reversal of expectation, effective use of language, identification and, above all, imaginative flight.”

– Dr. Munira Hamud Mutran. Doctor Honoris Causa On Literature, National University of Ireland, Maynooth, professor at the University of São Paulo.

“I really appreciated reading Heloisa Prieto’s The Musician. I believe it is very relevant for people to get acquainted with our cultural scenario and traditional wisdom. According to the Guarani teachings, artists don’t do their job just to entertain, but to touch people’s hearts. We say that writers are warriors, in the sense that they are God gifted, so I believe her book will be very important as a way to show contemporary society a different world: ours.”

– Olivio Jekupé, indigenous writer from the Guarani nation has published 24 books, including bi-lingual editions (guarani-portuguese), having also been published in Italy.

“I was mesmerized by this narrative´s musicality, its rhythm, its repertoire, the quotes from actual songs, as well as poems and lyrics – all of them skillfully orchestrated by the author, offering the reader not only some truly thrilling scenes, as well as poetry and reflection.”

– Gabriella Mancini is an acclaimed Brazilian young TV, movie script writer, having worked at Netflix, TV

Cultura, LC Barreto, Copa Studio, Gullane, among others
“Indigenous people are at risk, fighting to preserve not only the forests, but also the future of our children. The Musician really touched my heart by echoing voices that must be heard. Long life to the power of literature.”

– Dr. Katia Charada has a PHD on Literary Theory and History at Unicamp. (University of Campinas)

An Interview with Heloisa Prieto

The Musician is your first novel that was originally written in English. What made you decide to do that for this novel?

When indigenous rights to their land were violently threatened, I decided to create a narrative in which a contemporary and extremely successful young musician only finds peace by valuing and tuning to the rain forest dwellers mind set. My wish was to share, by the means of a contemporary fable, the relevance of the Guarani ecological way of thinking.

Brazilian mythology plays a large part in The Musician. What drew you to these myths?

My father used to tell me that “when human madness harms the planet to catastrophic proportions, the indigenous people will take the lead, because they will be the only ones who can find the path under the stars”.

All along the years I spent listening to narratives from Brazilian indigenous authors, I realized their myths and legends focus on acceptance, inclusion and deep connection with Nature. Thomas is a sensitive artist whose heart is called by the forest without him knowing it. His inner call which will be sensed by beautiful Marlui will break the contemporary paradigm of early fame/untimely death.
In order to intertwine ancient myths with urban characters, I chose to tell the stories through the eyes of 5 different characters, whereas keeping the pace of life at risk thriller.

What kind of research went into writing this novel?

My father, Luiz, was a great admirer of indigenous traditions. As a boy he made friends with people from the Guarani village and their teachings deeply influenced him. As an adult, he traveled to the Xavantes nation yearly. I heard his tales, his experiences among them and inherited his views. For thirty years now I have been giving my contribution by curating indigenous authors and translating their tales. Some years ago, when Estas Tonne came to Brazil, he played at the village and spoke to their healer. I was fascinated by the Guarani approach to sound healing. The chapter 5 strings was inspired by an actual experience at the praying house.

This is your adult debut after a successful career writing childrens’ books. How did writing this novel differ from writing your others?

In Brazil I had been publishing both children’s books and YA novels. Lenora, my first gothic novel, had been inspired by Edgard Allan Poe’s works, yet it took place in Florianópolis, a tropical beach. When I first submitted The Musician to Koehler’s team I thought I had written another YA book, a thriller in a Brazilian scenario. However, maybe due to the choice for 5 different points of views, the retelling of Guarani myths and teachings in a contemporary scenario, editors thought the book should not be limited to a specific target reader. Although I love writing about and for the youth, I took it as a compliment in the sense that the narrative was considered all inclusive.

What do you hope your readers take away from Thomas, Marlui, and the other main characters?

Poetry, beauty and peace can only be seized if we have “eyes to see” them. As in the rainforest beauty derives from diversity. Each character is meant to share a totally new horizon in order to enlarge one’s inner landscape. What is a happy ending after all? Sometimes questions are more meaningful than answers. Life is a constant riddle whose answers can move us towards surprising scenarios.

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An unflinching examination of white supremacy in America

David Mura unmasks how white stories about race attempt to erase the brutality of the past and underpin systemic racism in the present

Minneapolis, MN – David Mura grounds his work in historical and fictional narratives that whiteness tells society in order to uphold systems of oppression in The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself (Jan. 31 2023, University of Minnesota Press).

Intertwining history, literature, ethics, and the deeply personal, Mura looks back to foundational narratives of white supremacy (Jefferson’s defense of slavery, Lincoln’s frequently minimized racism, and the establishment of Jim Crow) to show how white identity is based on shared belief in the pernicious myths, false histories, and racially segregated fictions that allow whites to deny their culpability in past atrocities and current inequities. White supremacy always insists white knowledge is superior to Black knowledge, Mura argues, and this belief dismisses the truths embodied in Black narratives.

In his cogent analysis of white historical, fictional (Faulkner), cinematic (Spielberg) and journalistic narratives, Mura points to the persistent trauma racism has exacted; he lays bare how deeply we need to change our racial narratives—what white people must do—to dissolve the myth of Whiteness and fully acknowledge the stories and experiences of Black Americans.

The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself: Racial Myths and Our American Narratives
David Mura | Jan. 31, 2023 | University of Minnesota Press | Nonfiction
Paperback | ISBN: 9781517914547 | $24.95
Ebook | $24.95


About the Author

David Mura is an essayist, memoirist, poet and fiction writer who brings a unique perspective to our multi-racial and multi-cultural society. A third-generation Japanese-American, he has written intimately about his life as a man of color and the connections between race, culture and history. In public appearances interweaving poetry, performance and personal testament, he provides powerful insights into the racial issues facing America today.

Mura’s memoirs, poems, essays, plays and performances have won wide critical praise and numerous awards. Their topics range from contemporary Japan to the legacy of the internment camps and the history of Japanese Americans to critical explorations of an increasingly diverse America. He gives presentations at educational institutions, businesses and other organizations throughout the country. You can find him at his website: http://www.davidmura.com/

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In an interview, David Mura can discuss:

  • How white-dominated narratives of America’s past and present are deeply intertwined with our racist history – This can be seen in not only our historical texts and myths, but also in fiction, film or everyday racial incidents like the killings of Philando Castile and George Floyd by police, both of which happened just a few miles from David’s home in Minneapolis.
  • How America began with two goals – one was equality, freedom and democracy; the other was the establishment and maintenance of white supremacy. White America is fine with telling the story of America through the lens of the first goal, but not through the second.
  • His identity as a third generation Japanese American and how that identity informed his writing.
  • How readers can overcome psychological denial and engage more deeply with the struggle for racial equality.
  • The overly simplistic and superficial view of white supremacy and the legacy of slavery in the U.S., plus the lasting effects of the Reconstruction Era.
  • What we can learn from activist and writer James Baldwin about racism in America
  • How America would be different if schools put greater emphasis on the stories and experiences of all Americans, rather than just white-dominated narratives.
  • His friendship with novelist Alexs Pate and his involvement with The Innocent Classroom program that trains K-12 educators to improve their relationships with students of color.

Praise for The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself

The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself is the book I wish I could have been handing out during the height of the Black Lives Matters protests. There are many works written about the overarching effects of White Supremacy in America, but what’s essential about this book is the clarity provided by the wisdom and holistic vision of David Mura. The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself is the rare book that pulls off the magic trick of taking an incredibly explosive issue and disarming it with such grace as to make elusive truths feel suddenly accessible.” — Mat Johnson, author of Pym, Loving Day, and Invisible Things

“A powerful meditation on the conscious and unconscious effects of racist narratives. Anyone who’s lived through the last three years of racial reckoning and is wondering how we got here and where we go next will find this book useful.” — Shannon Gibney (waiting for attribution preference) Dream Country

“With this collection of taut essays, David Mura holds searing light on the epistemology of Whiteness, interrogating the brutal creation and lethal maintenance of this alibi rigged to serve as an identity. Mura, with painstaking patience half-masking anger and grief, offers what so many white Americans claim they want; what so many of the rest of us tire of providing: a rigorous education in perceiving themselves stripped of their dearest myths. I push back on the author’s use of “blindness” as metaphor over the book’s arc, a way the sighted shorthand an inability to perceive. No. For what Mura argues with compelling intelligence is that most white people willfully ignore history and resent being reminded of their place within its present. I suspect some will, as always, manage to ignore this entry into a tradition that includes Baldwin, Morrison, Hartman, and Wilderson; but those who heed it will find themselves fortified for change.” — Douglas Kearney, National Book Awards Poetry finalist

“More than anything, David Mura reminds us that history is still just a story, and life and death lies in who gets to tell it and what’s been told. This is a re-examination of the American imagination itself and the myths we need to dismantle for a proper foundation to finally grow. It’s fearless, illuminating, and revolutionary” — Marlon James, winner of the 2015 Booker Prize

“The vitriolic discourse against educators and librarians displays the resurgence of overt hostility toward books, in particular stories coming out of marginalized communities. Books written by writers of color and writers writing about how race is experienced by people of color are accused of teaching people to hate America. Meanwhile, there is The Stories Whiteness Tells Itself. David Mura, a gifted Japanese American writer and storyteller is in conversation with gifted African American writers/prophets such as Baldwin, Morrison, Gates, Kendi, and his friend and contemporary Alex Pate, author of the novel Amistad. Together, Mura and the thinkers he’s enlisted serve to shore up the experiences of people of color against the gaslighting we face and provide Whiteness with an opportunity to engage with fuller stories that could bring it out of a ‘distorted reality’ where ‘the oppressor thus lies to himself both about himself and about those he oppresses.’” — Sherrie Fernandez-Williams, author of Soft: A Memoir


Additional Praise for David Mura

“Upon finishing this book, I think that we will no longer be strangers. We will no longer feel that we are on our journey alone. This book is the intersection where our paths meet, where we can forge bonds that transcend the racial divide. Maybe from here on out, we can accompany each other on our journeys as friends and fellow artists, but most importantly, as fellow humans.” — Reyna Grande, Author of The Distance Between Us

“A Stranger’s Journey is an essential work of literary criticism and memoir, challenging readers and writers alike to think about writing, race, and identity in new ways.” — Rebecca Hussey, Foreword Reviews

“There is brilliant writing in this book, observations of Japanese humanity and culture that are subtly different from and more penetrating than what we usually get from Westerners.” — The New Yorker

“This intimate memoir of a third-generation Japanese American’s foray into the land of his ancestors is more than a colorful travel journal. And it is more than the story of one man’s search for his cultural place in the world when for the first time he is surrounded by faces all looking like his…David Mura has made his first book something rarer—a brutally honest, beautifully written meditation on art, race, country, sexuality and marriage, and ultimately…the exploration of himself as a man…This book is the powerful record of all he saw and experienced [in Japan] written with a poet’s eye and a memory for what was never there.” — Joyce Howe, East Bay Express


An Interview with David Mura

Your hometown of Minneapolis became a focal point for the Black Lives Matter movement after the police killings of Philando Castile and George Floyd – how were you affected?

My book begins with an essay on the police murder of Philando Castile and ends with an essay on the police murder of George Floyd. Both these police killings took place a few miles from my home. My son works in a school less than a mile from Cup Foods and he knows Darnella Frazier, the brave 17-year-old who took the video of Floyd’s murder, and he went to school with the EMT who tried to intervene and save Floyd. My daughter, sons and I all participated in the demonstrations against the killing of Floyd in the neighborhood where my children grew up and went to school.

In 2021, with African American writer Carolyn Holbrook, I co-edited and introduced an anthology of MN BIPOC writers, We Are Meant to Rise: Voices for Justice from Minneapolis to the World, and many of the writers, including my daughter, wrote about Floyd’s murder and the subsequent protests. The anger, sadness, analysis, and diverse personal testimonies in that book reflect the activist and artistic community here that I’m proud to be a part of, and the reverberations from these murders and demonstrations have had national and international consequences.

Why and how did you come to write this book about the dialogue and struggle between white and Black Americans, given that you yourself are a Japanese American?

Both my parents, at ages 11 and 15, were imprisoned by the United States government during World War II because of racist suspicions against their community. As a result, my parents, both consciously and unconsciously, raised me to assimilate into a white middle class identity. Growing up in a white suburb of Chicago, when someone said, “I think of you, David, just like a white person,” that was what I wanted to be. So I grew up studying and emulating white culture, white identity and white people. I know how white people think and view themselves because that is what I wanted to be — a white person.

Only in my late 20s, after reading African American authors, did I finally admit to myself I was never going to be white; moreover, these Black authors provided a language and a set of concepts that served as tools to investigate my Japanese American identity. I began to develop friendships with other people of color, particularly writers and artists, and I began teaching at organizations with students of color. So in many ways, in the second half of my life, I’ve been studying and developing relationships with Black culture, Black history and the Black community in a very conscious way, and I’ve been aided in that by key friendships with Black writers, artists, and theorists like the novelist Alexs Pate and a key proponent of the school of Afropessimism, Frank Wilderson.

You discuss fictional and historical examples of white supremacy in your book. Can you expand on how specifically fictional examples of racism fuel and protect the ideals that support white supremacy? How are these racial narratives different when presented by Black fiction writers and filmmakers?

Steven Spielberg and two white screenwriters created the film Amistad. In the initial scene, the Africans speak without subtitles — thus, unintelligible to American audiences — and after breaking their chains in the hold of a ship, they proceed to kill the white Spanish sailors. So the audience cannot understand them, does not know why they are in chains (they could be prisoners), and their first act is violence against white men. As the film progresses, it focuses on the quest of the young white lawyer, Roger Baldwin, to enlist John Quincy Adams to help in the trial which will determine whether the Africans are slaves or free men.

My friend, the African American novelist Alexs Pate, was hired to write the novelization of the film script, and intuitively he did not want to start with this scene. And so, unlike the film script, whose main viewpoint is that of Roger Baldwin and John Quincy Adams, Pate starts the novel within Cinque’s consciousness. Cinque is sleeping in his village next to his wife and child; he is restless and goes out and ends up killing a lion which is attacking his village. He is not unintelligible; he is a man with a family, a people, a culture; his consciousness is available to the reader; and finally his violence is clearly and unambiguously heroic. Just as importantly, his Blackness is not even a concept or, to use Dubois’ famous question, a problem. There is no Whiteness, and his status as a free man is not dependent upon the judgment and rule of white people.

Thus, the novelization written by an African American novelist differs markedly from the film, both in its ontology (categories of race) and its epistemology (whose knowledge and viewpoint centers the narrative). Pate uses all the lines from the script — that was his charge — but instead of a film about white saviors, he creates an African American film with an African hero whose goal is to return home to his wife and family.

You point out that white authors do not generally identify the race of their white characters and BIPOC writers do. What is the significance of this?

In general BIPOC writers understand that they must somehow indicate the ethnic and racial identity of their characters and in order to properly contextualize and understand their characters, they must be able to read those characters racially. In contrast, if a white author introduces the couple David and Susan, absent any racial marker, those characters are presumed to be white.

Thus, white identity becomes the universal default; all characters of color are exceptions to the norm. Moreover, whiteness need not be identified, and the implied assumption is that a white character being white has nothing to do with their identity, the way they look at themselves or their life experience — which, frankly, is nonsense. Thus, the absence of any racial marker for white characters becomes a mainly unconscious denial of race in America; it also implicitly assumes that the reader of the text is white and will not think consciously about the racial identity of the white characters or the author. This is not an assumption either most writers or readers of color make when creating or interpreting a text, even a text by a white author about white characters.

Writers and readers of color, a la DuBois’s double consciousness, know they must think about how white people think and how people of color think, whereas white consciousness can ignore the judgment and thinking of people of color or our ability to interpret and judge a text.

What does James Baldwin teach BIPOC about how to deal with America’s racism?

When Baldwin was in his teens and first ventured out of the all-Black community of Harlem, he was taken aback by the racism he experienced. After being refused service in a white New Jersey restaurant, he created a scene which ended with him being pursued by whites out of the restaurant. In his famous essay, Notes of a Native Son, he realizes that his father’s bitterness and rage concerning race also resides in his own psyche, and that if he doesn’t deal with that, he could end up killing someone or getting himself killed or killing himself.

Later, through his work as a journalist in the South during the Civil Rights era, he comes to realize the fortitude, resilience and spiritual strength of Southern Blacks in the face of the monstrous racism there, and how this strength resides not only in those activists, but in ordinary Black people who have continued to survive and build their own culture and institutions despite centuries of racism. At the same time, as Baldwin the writer and gay man encounters more of the white world, he realizes how deluded white people are not just about their racism but the false myths and stories through which white identity is created and maintained. He sees that white people are weaker and more morally bankrupt than they themselves can admit. As he says in that famous remark, he cannot be hurt by the N-word because the N-word says nothing about him or Black people but it says a lot about the people who created that word and use it to formulate their own sense of themselves and identity. In other words, he gives less and less room in his psyche to the ways white people see him; he makes Whiteness smaller in his own mind.

Tell us about Alexs Pate’s The Innocent Classroom and your involvement with the program.

I’ve been friends with the African American novelist Alexs Pate for 30 years. Back in the 1990’s we co-created a performance piece based on the events surrounding the video of the Rodney King beating by LA police. Partly inspired by pieces he wrote for that script, Pate eventually created a program to train K-12 teachers to improve their relationship with students of color.

In the program we asked educators to list the words American society uses to describe children of color and the list that results is an appalling array of negative stereotypes. The program understands that many BIPOC students feel branded and trapped by these negative racial stereotypes and never or rarely experience environments where their innocence — rather than their guilt — is assumed. And yet these are children; they should be regarded as innocent.

I served as Director of Training for the program and was the first trainer other than Pate to present the program to educators. Today, implemented in classrooms across the country, the Innocent Classroom has been shown to significantly improve both student behavior and academic achievement as well as teachers’ belief in, and relationship with, their students.

Why is the general view of white supremacy and the legacy of slavery overly simplistic and superficial? How, for instance, did the establishment, practice and justification of slavery structure white identity, as opposed to Black identity?

Racial disparities continue to exist in economics and employment, in the educational, justice and political system, in medicine and other fields, and as Baldwin has observed, these disparities are not an accident or a result of a few bad apples. They exist because white people have wanted them to exist and have structured power in this society so that these disparities can be maintained.

Such disparities exist because American society is still structured by the ways white people define Whiteness and Blackness, and the roots of that definition and grouping go back to slavery. From 1619 on, white identity was always formulated and viewed in contrast to Black identity. Historian David Eltis argues that it would have been more economically feasible to enslave whites from European poor houses and prisons, but Afropessmist Frank Wilderson points out that this would have broken up Whiteness as a group identity and as a tool to oppress racial others. Whiteness became the definition of what it means to be a citizen, to have the rights of citizenship, to have the rights to own property and later to participate in our democracy. Blackness became the definition of what it means not to be a citizen, to lack those rights, which meant that violence could be done to the Black body without need of legal justification — a phenomena we still see in contemporary encounters between Black people and police.

Of course Black people had a very different definition of what it means to be white and what it means to be Black and they resisted the categorization of themselves inflicted upon them, and this resistance continues into the present.

What does your book say about the racial thinking and psychology of Thomas Jefferson?

Let’s say I’m introducing you to a man who is a brilliant writer and thinker, an inventor and a scientist, a creator and purveyor of the principles of equality, freedom and democracy, a man who helped found a democratic nation. You would think: This is a man to admire.

But what if I told you this man enslaved over 500 human beings? What if I told you this man was his era’s leading ideologist in support of chattel slavery, that he argued vehemently for the inferiority of the Black race? What if I told you this man begat children in an adulterous affair with one of his slaves, who had no right or ability to reject his advances? What if I told you that this mistress was one fourth Black and his children one eighth Black, so that his children by this mistress/sexual victim looked white and people remarked on their resemblance to his father? But this man kept his own children and his grandchildren enslaved because their mother was Black. You would have a totally different opinion of this man. You would think him evil, psychologically depraved, morally bankrupt. The least you would say is that this man is a racist.

White America is fine with the presentation of Jefferson in my first paragraph here. White America is not fine with Jefferson the slaveholder and ideologist for slavery. And yet we are talking about the same man. You cannot understand how the United States was created, nor what it has been and is now, without acknowledging and understanding the moral, psychological and political contradictions Jefferson embodied. White America does not want to remember Jefferson the slave holder and it is this repressed truth which still shapes not only our thinking about the past and the present (for it is the present which clings to this historical amnesia).

Many have argued that we should view Lincoln’s racism as a product of its times and should be viewed in the context of its times. What is wrong with that view?

Certainly we should view Lincoln’s racism in the context of his time. He was a great president, a great man, and in so many ways a moral leader of his time.

And yet, he was also a racist, and there are any number of his remarks we would today recognize as racist, including his telling the Black ministers who came to the White House that they would never be part of America and that there was no Black person equal to a white person. We need to acknowledge this truth, because his racism is a fact about the man and his time.

We should be able to hold two views of Lincoln at the same time. Because if you eliminate the judgment of Lincoln as a racist, you distort and deny the past; moreover, if you lower the moral bar in judging the past it becomes way easier to lower the moral bar in judging the racism of the present.

Just as importantly, when we talk about the moral climate of Lincoln’s time, whose morality are we referring to? It is clearly just the morality of the white people of his time – because those Black ministers were also part of Lincoln’s time, and they believed in their equality and right to be part of America. So in calling for a white historical relativism, the present white view of Lincoln’s time eliminates the judgements and consciousness of the Black people of his time; it says those Black people were not part of America — which again is a racist view which characterizes our present as much as it characterizes Lincoln’s time.

How have we underestimated the lasting effects and complexity of the Reconstruction period?

After the Civil War, after any seeming legal racial progress towards equality, the regressive white population began work to re-establish the racial norms of the previous era — only without using the vocabulary of the previous era. Yes, the Emancipation Proclamation or the 13th and 14th Amendments supposedly became the law of the land, but these laws did not change the hearts and minds of white Southerners, particularly former slaveowners. So their question was: How can we reconstitute the power and trappings of slavery without saying that’s what we’re doing?

The Reconstruction period remains particularly obscured in our telling of American history. If anything is told, such accounts tend to involve stories of white vigilante violence, of the KKK and white terror, which were certainly part of this era. But the era also involved complex legal, philosophical, cultural and historical work, from the laws of the Black Codes, which essentially allowed any white person to arrest a Black person who was not working which then led to hundreds of thousands of Blacks trapped in the slave labor of the prison system; similarly apprenticeships and forms of indentured servitude kept Black workers constantly in debt to the white landowners and thus stripped of their rights. Then there were all the efforts to prevent Blacks from voting, from outright terror to poll taxes and written tests and other forms of voter discrimination.

And all this was supported by legal efforts to decrease the public sphere where laws of equality could be enforced and increase the private sphere where they could not — including designating racial hatred and discrimination as not being an essential part of slavery and thus, still perfectly legal; other legal work involved pushing state’s rights over federal rights and other measures out of a political philosophy which sounds today much like that of the Republican party. Finally, there was the production of the narrative of the Lost Cause, which depicted slavery as a relatively harmless necessity and certainly denied it as a cause for the Civil War; instead the Lost Cause myth pictured state’s rights and Northern aggression as the real reasons for the war, and it portrayed Southerners as noble, valiant, brave, and heroic freedom fighters in a lost cause. By the time of say Birth of a Nation or Gone With the Wind, this blatantly false narrative of the Lost Cause had even infected the northern view of the Civil War and the South. Indeed, adopting this narrative became part of how the North eventually chose unity with fellow Southern whites over any real work towards Black racial equality.

When white South Africans wanted to institute racial segregation and white supremacy in a formalized way, they realized the white American South had already created such a system and had done their work for them. Reconstruction created the Jim Crow South and kept and still keeps Southern Blacks from having equal rights there. The crisis of the Jackson, Mississippi water system reflects the fact that most whites moved out of Jackson to avoid school integration, and thus, what happened with the water system there is simply the colored water fountain, 2.0.

What is white epistemology and Black epistemology? How do these complex terms relate to the present day race relations?

Feminists have argued that gender shapes and influences our conceptions of knowledge and the practices through which we attribute, acquire and justify what is proper knowledge. Similarly, race shapes what we regard as valid and invalid knowledge; it shapes how we come to know and think about the world; it shapes how and whom we designate as possessing the truth of the world, both of the past and the present. Or as Robin DiAngelo, author of White Fragility, puts it, “From whose subjectivity does the ideal of objectivity come?”

People of color understand that a basis of white identity is always this: Nothing people of
color say about whites or Whiteness can be the truth — valid knowledge — unless whites and Whiteness decree it. Ultimately, whites believe it is their right to decide not just the nature of their reality, but that of blacks and other people of color too. It is their white epistemology, their way of knowing the world, which must remain supreme. For it is a fundamental rule of white epistemology that the knowledge and stories of white America can never be legitimately challenged by Americans who are not white. You see this white epistemology at work everywhere — in our political and legal system, in culture, in the ways we tell our history.

Throughout our history, but certainly within slavery, the white Master believed he is the master and the Black Slave the inferior who must do what the Master says — on pain of death. Implicitly, in the white Master’s epistemology, Black knowledge hardly existed and was certainly inferior and subject to the Master’s judgment. Blacks understood the white Master viewed them like this, but they also understood they needed to hide their consciousness, their rebellious thoughts and actions, from the White Master. The Black Slave knew a truth the White Master could not admit — the Black Slave was a fully human as the Master. So the Black Slave, as DuBois implied, had a double-consciousness and had to understand how the White Master thinks of himself and the Black Slave and how the Black slave thinks about themselves and the White Master.

How would our country be different if we had a new national narrative that includes the stories and experiences and voices of all Americans, not just the white-dominated narratives we are taught in school or, up until very recently, in popular culture?

As the historian David Blight has observed, “Hypocrisy is a tool of racism.” If the ways we narrate and tell our racial history is distorted and actively omits or obscures certain truths, we cannot understand either the past or the present which emerged out of that past. Moreover the distorted and censored way we tell our history continues, and this then distorts the way we tell our narratives about the present. It’s easier to lie about the present if you lie about the past; it’s easier to lower the moral bar in the present if you lower it in the past.

Beyond this the truths embodied in the narratives and perspective of African Americans are part of our entire nation’s history. Our national history does not make sense without their story and perspective. Moreover, within the struggle for civil rights, Black America has always been on the right side of history, has always seen our racial mistakes and problems more clearly than white people. And yet, curiously and tellingly, there can be no contemporary Harriet Tubman or Sojourner Truth or Martin Luther King, Jr. But if white America actually understood the full complexity and truths of our history, it might be more able to say, “Hey, we got the race question wrong every time in our history and you Blacks were on the right side of history. So now we’re going to listen to you, we’re going to take your lead.”

Part of this would involve white Americans understanding that they are inheritors, as we all our, of the white slaveowners and the Black slaves; George Wallace and Martin Luther King, Jr. are both part of our legacy. While some declaim the diminishment of white unblemished heroes like Jefferson who owned slaves and Lincoln who was a racist, we should be able to see the truly heroic in the struggles of African Americans and other BIPOC Americans and make their contributions essential to the American story, which they are.

One more point: Conservative whites are now proclaiming that the teaching about race in our classrooms is harming white children, and we should ban even a book like the story of Ruby Bridges, the brave 8-year-old who desegregated a school in face of hostile white crowds insulting and spitting at her. Why couldn’t white children be inspired by this story? Moreover if African American children can hear about the history of race in America, why can’t white children? Are white children so much more fragile? Finally, these white conservatives are clearly not concerned that almost every Black parent in America must tell even their grade school children what might happen to them if they encounter the police and how to avoid that. Where’s the concern for the real harm actual stories of the justice system are doing to Black children?

Where do we go from here? How can readers take what they have learned through your work and put that to action on an individual level to confront our country’s racial problems?

Near the end of the book, I go over some changes white people need to make in their lives, from knowing more about the issues of race to changing and making more diverse their social life to entering activism. But these fairly concrete steps must be taken in concert with an internal journey.

I point out how white reactions to racism often follow the five steps in Helen Kubler-Ross’s five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, grief, acceptance. From denial: “Racism is mostly a thing of a past…” or “…there’s no such thing as systemic racism….” or “whites are more discriminated against than minorities…” to anger: “Why are you being so difficult, why are you created problems when there aren’t any, the problem is your anger, why do you keep bringing this up” to bargaining: “well, it can’t be all that bad….it’s only a few bad apples….we just need to make a few reforms to policing” to grief: “I can’t believe it’s so bad, how do you BIPOC people take it, I feel so ashamed” and white tears to finally acceptance of the fact of racism in American life and society. This is a spiritual and psychological journey, not just a political one.

For BIPOC people, we must reject how whites define racism — focusing mainly on conscious and visible individual acts of racism and discrimination — and instead understand the systemic workings of racism, how acts of racist acts in our justice system or politics often disguise their true intent, how racial disparities are created by structural components such as legal protections for egregious police officers or the systemic pervasiveness of unconscious or implicit racial bias in a huge proportions of America.

For BIPOC people, there’s also the task of making Whiteness — that is white judgements, insults, discrimination — smaller, with far less room in our heads. Yes, we have to battle the systemic racism in our society, but we must work on not internalizing that racism and letting it judge ourselves. As I often say to you BIPOC, “Don’t give power to people who cannot see you.”

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An interview with Giselle Durand of The Book Cellar

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

I love the cozy corner by the front windows. We have these really comfy chairs there and the sunlight streams in in the afternoon, so it’s a little book heaven. I also appreciate whatever weird corner our life-size John Green cutout is in. I like to move him around.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I love having Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown facing out. The cover is just gorgeous, and the dust cover is actually textured and raised which adds wonderful dimension. Other honorable mentions include The Atlas Six by Olivie Blake, Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao, and Crying in H Mart by Michelle Zauner. I guess I really like red covers?

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

I can’t decide between Honey and Spice by Bolu Babalola and Dead End Memories by Banana Yoshimoto. Honey and Spice defines the genre of romantic comedy- Babalola is a self-proclaimed rom-connaisseur and I wholeheartedly agree- the book breathes so well. The chemistry between the characters is electric and I was thoroughly engrossed in her writing. I can’t recommend it enough! Dead End Memories is a short story collection translated from the original Japanese by Asa Yoneda. I’m not normally a short-story person, but the writing style captivated me and it was so light and easy to read. At the same time, I felt heartbroken after every story. Yoshimoto is really good at creating really specific atmospheres, and the short stories centering on missed connections and finding our way back to people, or not, are beautifully reflective of the nature of relationships.

Do you have a strange customer story?

Too many to count! I actually keep a note on my phone called “People of the Bookstore” for customer stories, so I immediately opened that up when I read this question. This story isn’t so strange, but it’s one of my favorite interactions I’ve had. A woman came in looking for books for her four granddaughters. She said something along the lines of “They live in a very conservative town, so we like to give them things to stretch their minds.” Once we settled on One Last Stop for the 22-year-old, Red, White, and Royal Blue for the 19-year-old, The Song of Achilles for the 15-year-old, and The Mysterious Benedict Society for the 11-year-old, she was visibly gleeful. “I hope their mother throws a fit,” She told me while checking out.

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

We did a partnership with the Chicago Public Libraries for Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s children’s book, JUST HELP! and Spanish counterpart SOLO AYUDA!, and it was really cool working on a project with a Supreme Court Justice. I didn’t work the actual event, so I didn’t technically meet her, but I got a bit starstruck when we received bookplates with her signature. Melissa Albert is one of the nicest authors I’ve ever met. She wrote the Hazelwood series and launched her newest book, Our Crooked Hearts, with us in store. She is so talented and sweet!

Also, I loved the Divergent books when I was younger, and when I started working at the Book Cellar and found out Veronica Roth was a Chicago native and frequenter of our store, I freaked out! I got to meet her a few months ago when she came in to do some shopping, and she signed my advanced reader copy of her book Poster Girl that’s coming out in October. She is so nice and has fabulous taste in books- it’s always fun to see what she orders.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

“Is it nice to sit around and read all day?” I wish I had time for that! Between assisting customers in-store, processing online orders, receiving shipments of books, manning the cafe, and making sure the store looks nice, it’s a busy job. It’s not nearly as lax and romantic as people make it out to be!

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

My least favorite task is shelving books when the shelves are chock-full. It’s hard deciding what should be moved around or off the shelves to make room for things, while still making sure the displays look nice and some books are facing out! My favorite task is giving recommendations, oral or written. When someone comes in and the word “recommendation” leaves their mouth, I can feel myself activate. I love the challenge and excitement of finding them the perfect book. Especially if they come back at some point and are clawing for the sequel, raving about the book and asking for something similar, or gushing over how the person they gave it to loved it. It’s so rewarding. We also have “Rec cards” where staff members can write recommendations to accompany books on the shelves, which is a great way to highlight books that might be passed over if someone were just scanning the spines.

Can you recommend an underrated readalike book for one of the store’s top titles?

I love this question. We sell a lot of Gideon the Ninth (and sequels) by Tamsyn Muir, which is a dark sci-fi fantasy with necromancers, queerness, love interests who hate each other, and a compelling mystery. One of my favorite books is Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas, which also includes queerness, love interests who hate each other, a compelling mystery, and shepherding souls to the land of the dead. It’s a gorgeously written book about a young trans man trying to prove himself to his family by summoning a super annoying (and much to his chagrin, hot) ghost. It’s a ghost story and a love story and has a similar atmosphere to Gideon!

What’s the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

“Look, I didn’t want to be a half-blood,” will always be one of my favorite first lines in a book. It’s from the very first Percy Jackson book, The Lightning Thief, by Rick Riordan, and it sets the tone for the entire series so well. Another good first line that I love is from Circe by Madeline Miller; “When I was born, the name for what I was did not exist.” It’s so intriguing and makes you want to keep reading! I’m kicking myself for not remembering what book it is, but there’s a dedication out there that’s along the lines of “For you, bitch” that I just think is so funny.

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited, besides your own!

Wild Rumpus in Minneapolis is one of the coolest bookstores ever! They have chickens and cats that roam around the store and you can pet them and play with them as you look for books. It’s more geared towards kids, but there’s something for everyone.

Giselle Durand is a bookseller at The Book Cellar in Chicago.

An interview with Natalie Freeman of Skylight Books

What’s your favorite area of your bookstore?

At Skylight we technically have *two* stores. We have our main store which is home to all of our fiction, genre books, and most of our nonfiction books. Then two doors down we have our Arts Annex with all of our graphic novels, design, music, film and other art books. The Annex is also home to our super rad zine collection, mostly curated by my colleague Alex. My favorite thing to do when I see Alex receiving and restocking in the Annex is to just ask him what’s new and what’s cool. We have zines by local authors/illustrators/artists and a lot of imported collections from around the world. I get lost in the zines everytime I walk back to my office and I’ve discovered so many cool things on those displays.

What’s the coolest book cover that you like to have facing out on the shelves?

I know we’re not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but judgment doesn’t always have to be bad! When I saw the cover art for the new editions of Juneau Black’s SHADY HOLLOW mystery series, I thought “Okay this book is going to be a good time!” And I wasn’t wrong! I always face these out in our mystery section and recommend them to anyone who’s looking for a fun read that feels like a cozy afternoon on the couch with a *perfect drinking temperature* cup of tea.

If you had a staff pick for a recent new release, what would it be? Backlist pick?

We do staff picks every month at Skylight, and this year I decided to feature kids, middle reader, and YA books for all of those (you can find all of our staff picks on our website!) But I’ve still been reading big kid books too! If I had to pick a recent new release, I’d recommend Jennette McCurdy’s memoir I’M GLAD MY MOM DIED. I read an early copy and finished it in like two days. My favorite memoirs are the ones where the author is so self-aware that you can feel it dripping off the page. Having been through lots of therapy and constantly working on discovering new things about myself, this book really blew me away. A blacklist pick would probably be A PSALM FOR THE WILD-BUILT, the first book in Becky Chambers’ Monk and Robot series. I read this and the latest installment A PRAYER FOR THE CROWN-SHY while I was camping this summer and I couldn’t imagine a better place to read these beautiful little books about a traveling tea monk and their robot companion.

Do you have a strange customer story?

So much can happen in a day of consistently interacting with customers. One of my favorite interactions was when a customer came in looking for the new Melissa Febos book BODY WORK, but it was the day before it went on sale. The customer had just been in a class where Melissa was a guest speaker and she mentioned the book, so she had come to the store the next day to get it. I happened to have an advanced copy at my desk because I had been reading it, so I told the customer to hang out for a second and I’d be right back. I brought her the galley and let her have it since I was almost done. She emailed me a few days later saying she had already finished it. Those kinds of interactions only happen when everyone is in the right place at the right time, and it’s always so fun when it all works out.

What author have you been starstruck to meet, or have you gotten to host a fun virtual event?

I’m the assistant events manager at Skylight so I’ve been fortunate enough to meet a lot of wonderful authors, and I also produce the Skylight Books Podcast so I’ve also gotten the opportunity to interview some of my personal favorite authors and illustrators. Earlier this year I interviewed Akwaeke Emezi about their YA novel BITTER, which was surreal and I still think about that conversation a lot.

What are some misconceptions people have about working in a bookstore?

Something that always seems to surprise people about working in a bookstore, at least our bookstore, is that every piece of the business happens HERE. If you order a book on our website and it says that it’s in stock, someone who works at the store is going to pull it off the shelf to fulfill your order. We have a very small (but mighty!) team that works on orders and shipping, and your order is also packaged and shipped by someone working at the store. Then we walk all of those packages across the street to the post office. The bookstore you’re shopping in is the place where all the magic happens!

What is your least favorite bookstore task? Favorite part about working in a bookstore?

My least favorite bookstore task is probably alphabetizing haha. It’s one of the most foundational tasks of working at a bookstore – you need to alphabetize things as you shelve, restock and maintain sections. But after the hustle and bustle of a day helping customers or working on events, my brain always has trouble remembering the alphabet.

My favorite part of working in a bookstore is definitely handselling. When I started working on the events team, I stopped working on the sales floor and I didn’t realize how much I would miss it! Whenever I happen to be bopping around the store and someone stops me to ask for help, I feel like a kid in a candy store. I love helping people find their next great read, it fills me with so much joy. My colleagues will also call me at my desk to see if I have time to help someone find a kids book, and that’s when I drop everything and I show up next door before they’ve even had a chance to hang up the phone.

Can you recommend an underrated read-a-like book for one of the store’s top titles?

I think that 99% of customers who have come into our store recently have read at least one Ottessa Moshfegh book. Sometimes they’ve read a few of her books and want to read another, or they’ve read one and liked it, but want to read another author before diving into her backlist. For anyone that loved or was thinking about reading DEATH IN HER HANDS, I always recommend Olga Tokarczuk’s DRIVE YOUR PLOW OVER THE BONES OF THE DEAD. They both have a character that inserts themselves into a whodunnit, plus DRIVE YOUR PLOW OVER THE BONES OF THE DEAD gives you a chance to read around the world (translated from the Polish) and spend some time with a cranky old lady who lives in a snowy cabin and loves astrology.

What’s the best dedication or first line of a book that you can remember?

This book has a dedication, a few intros and many beginnings. I’ve thought about Carmen Maria Machado’s memoir IN THE DREAM HOUSE pretty much every single day since I first read it.

What’s YOUR favorite indie bookstore that you’ve visited, besides your own!

I grew up in Lakewood, CA and there was a used bookstore about 10 minutes away called Once Read Books. They’re located on a corner and whichever direction you approach from there are shelves and shelves of books outside the front doors. I spent countless hours sifting through their sections and always found piles of books to bring home. Now whenever I’m back in that area I always have to stop by. On my last trip I found an amazing book on Eliot Porter’s Appalachian wilderness photography and a handful of old regional cookbooks.

Natalie Freeman is the assistant events manager at Skylight Books in L.A.